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    #6662
    geotrig
    Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭geotrig


    but none of those issues can be linked to building of one estate close to you ,well outside of the dust maybe and well that will eventually settle and is a nonsense reason for objecting to a housing estate not sure why you still cant go out your back and bbq ,again anyplace has the potential to turn into a crap area even without more buildings being added ,all it take is one troublesome family buying legally and it can turn crap


    the perceived "value" probably has more to do with lower lending and higher rates than this build tbh



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    #6663
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 26,062 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669459#Comment_120669459

    What about the people of nice peaceful rural Mungret who have to put up with the likes of you moving in to new builds with your horrendous attitudes and bombing around in your big stupid BMW.



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    #6664
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669506#Comment_120669506

    God you seem to know alot about me.

    Not that i owe you any explanation but i dont drive a bmw i drive a volvo.

    Also it might surprise you that more people that i know hold the same terrible attitudes.



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    #6665
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669499#Comment_120669499

    The reason for lower values is not because of ECB rates and that is according to the professionals.



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    #6666
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120667342#Comment_120667342

    Where do you live. Ive been very specific on my location and the reasons why i object to , wait for it , HIGH DENSITY , LOW COST , UNSTRUCTURED , FREE HOUSING.

    Looking forward to your reply



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    #6667
    geotrig
    Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭geotrig


    where do you suggest they build these then ?im curious , how do you envisage they fix the social issues you are seeing or is it a case build it elsewhere where its not my problem ? even social housing isnt free


    not sure why in the city you thought they'd never build i the large green area that has been undeveloped .i live ruralish and am under no illusion that at some point it could end up being built up around me.



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    #6668
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 26,062 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669555#Comment_120669555

    You should look up the history of Mungret. It's not the upper class ShangriLa you think it is and neither you or anyone else has no right to veto what kind of person gets to live there.

    Shock horror the "masses" are moving into rural Mungret 🤣



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    #6669
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669578#Comment_120669578

    Not sure either , but i think its very unfair to place a load of cheap high density housing into a settled area where most people pay for their houses by going out to work each day.

    I dont have the answers and i can see that on this forum i am very much in the minority. But out of 247 houses in our estate we got 203 signatures attached to an appeal gone to An Bord Pleanala.



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    #6670
    geotrig
    Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭geotrig


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669537#Comment_120669537

    not sure why you or the "professionals " 😂 think that



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    #6671
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669583#Comment_120669583

    God once again lots of assumptions.

    I drive a big stupid bmw , i think mungret is an upper class shargria la and im trying to veto who lives in mungret.

    I will repeat i dont drive a bmw

    I dont live in mungret

    And class means nothing to me.



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    #6672
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 26,062 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669608#Comment_120669608

    How the fek is it a settled area when it was only built new a few years ago 🤣

    And sorry you don't drive a BMW I apologize. I assumed you did because you purchased one a few years ago.

    The way you talk about people who have less money than you clearly care about class.



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    #6673
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669630#Comment_120669630

    I was replying to another poster with that comment btw.

    But fire away and ignore the reply i gave you.

    The Grange phase 2 was completed in 2003. Phase 4 is over 13 years old. Not sure how you regard that as a few.



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    #6674
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669610#Comment_120669610

    Its all perception unfortunately



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    #6675
    geotrig
    Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭geotrig


    do you have a link to the planning for this estate ? curious to look at the development ?



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    #6676
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669717#Comment_120669717

    Reference 22841



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    #6677
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669555#Comment_120669555

    Firsty, your need to look up what constitutes high density. It doesn't exist anywhere in Limerick. Secondly, how do you know it's low cost? How is it free housing exactly? How is it unstructured?

    Also case 22841 is not under construction. It only got permission off the council at the start of May and has been appealed to ABP. It's not not due for decision until September.



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    #6678
    geotrig
    Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭geotrig


    enough time to sell the house ,all that I can see mostly in that is that everyone parks on the paths and blocks pedestrians anyway and if it a constant movement of pedestrians and cyclist does that not slightly deter anti social behavious i'm not sure what will... troublesome teens tend to want to be out of sight somewhat .

    honestly I don't see much difference to the objections there than any other applications I've looked at in recent times.



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    #6679
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669844#Comment_120669844

    Ahm. I know all that because i have submitted an appeal.

    Bloody hell if 48 units per hectare isnt high density i dont know what is. High rise apartments are the only developement with higher umit numbers pon footprint.

    Nearly 1200 homes due for construction without a thought for increased infrastructure. Road upgrades , roads being decreased for cycle lanes that are not being used.

    Where will all these extra people get mefical and dental care. No new community facilities.

    Development 22841 behind us has no ball playing or recreation spaces. We pointed this out to a planner. The response was sure you have a large green area in front of your 8 houses. This is a green area that we have maintained , reseeded and placed goalposts.

    Now you said boo hoo. Where do you live and would you be happy in our situation.

    Oh yeah and the elephant in the room some of the units 11 metres from our rear are to contain traveller families as per a councillor info.

    Forgive me if i dont crack open the champagne.



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    #6680
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669887#Comment_120669887

    We have given up on the development being halted. The walkway is our concern. Look at our objections re safety of pedestrians and cyclists.

    The Grange was built 20 odd years ago. Different planning best practice. The roads and footpaths were provided for the numbers living in the area. If householders dont park partially on footpaths another car will not pass through , never mind a bin truck or delivery van or ambulance.

    Yet the idiots in Planning insist on sending another 96 household plus through this area with no facilities or capacity.

    It is hard to remain level headed in this situation. If a motorist hits a cyclist on this road which is only 5.1 metres wide in parts ??



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    #6681
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 26,062 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669984#Comment_120669984

    You complain about the cycle lanes and then complain that the road is dangerous for a cyclist 🤣



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    #6682
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120670109#Comment_120670109

    Yep lots of cycle lanes and very few people using them. Bollards blocking off the lanes to protect cyclists that are not there. Billards creating a hazard for emergency vehicles as no room for cars to pull in anymore.

    And yes if cyclists are to use the throughway in our esrate on a 5.1 metre wide road i'd love to know where is the room for a cycle lane.

    Very simple dont encourage cyclists to use unsafe area and instead use area on main road where there are dedicated cycle lanes.

    Easy but too difficult for your simpleton Planners to grasp.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120670109#Comment_120670109




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    #6683
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 26,062 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120670146#Comment_120670146

    Roads don't crash into cyclists. Only motorists performing dangerous manoeuvres do.

    But it's grand anyway because the cyclists in your NIMBY scenario don't actually exist according to you 😁

    Also cycle lanes obstructing emergency vehicles is so fekin NIMBY.

    You don't need to worry about cyclists anyway because the "unemployed masses" you speak of are only into the scrambler bikes and horses. Youre gonna love them.



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    #6684
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120669942#Comment_120669942

    You started by saying that your house was covered in dust and devalued due to construction at this site. Now you're admitting that the development that you're objecting to hasn't even begun. Make up your mind.

    It's none of your business where I live, but there has been plenty of development around me in recent years with more planned. It's the same low density that you seem to think is high density. Also there will be two other entrances to this estate when the council build the next phase of the LIHAF road.

    These new people were never going to get medical or dental care in or around their housing estate, so that's just a red herring argument. The 2040 plan wants Limerick City to have a population of 150000. This extra 50000 people across the city will all need medical and dental care in the future and it's the governments job to provide it.

    Fair play to ye for maintaining a public space, but it is a public space. You and your fellow residents don't own it. I can also see a large green space on the plan. (BTW my estate was built in the 80s and doesn't have any green space).

    Building standards are way stricter today than they were during the boom. I can guarantee that these homes will be of a higher standard that yours. Is your home A2 energy rated?

    So again I say boo hoo and call you a NIMBY.



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    #6685
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120670200#Comment_120670200

    Dust is from another development behind the primary school , hopefully thats not too difficult to grasp.

    Ok so if 46 to 50 units is not high density then maybe let me know what is.

    Our house is a1 ber rated because we have spent a s##t load of money on it. Money that i might have well put a match to.

    Also green space that we dont own isnt maintained by its owners LCC. It would be an overgrown crock of shite if left to them. The developement behind us is barely complying woth planning regs of 15% allocated to green areas. None of which are suitable for ball playing.

    Anyway i am done with this argument as i will be with this stupid backwater in a few years. Sorry to hell ever moved here in first place.



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    #6686
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Good luck then. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.



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    #6687
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120670172#Comment_120670172

    Hopefully you might experience that first hand sometime. Typical Irish soft as s**t mentality. If i dont agree then it cant be . Idiot



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    #6688
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 26,062 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120670380#Comment_120670380

    Ah go away out of it. You were caught rotten lying and now your trying to dig up.

    Good luck in your new utopia.



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    #6689
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 26,062 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120670420#Comment_120670420

    Experience what ?

    Living near people with horses or being knocked down on my bike ?



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    #6690
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120670474#Comment_120670474

    How dare you call me a liar. You have been spouting absolute crap replying to me without one shred of evidence. Ranging from bmws to living in mungret

    Now i shouldnt have to justify to a woke ignoramus like yourself but see the attachment.

    Screenshot_20230602_145843_WhatsApp.jpg




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    #6691
    boetstark
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120670385#Comment_120670385

    Cant help myself answering you. If 48 to 52 units per ha isnt high and 28 per ha low please explain what is and your sources.

    I wont need a door to hit me leaving as it will be on a ferry same way we came here.



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