I agreed to an ammo reduction from 2000 rounds to 1000 rounds for one of my guns but fcuked if I'd be agreeing to lower any of my magazines to below 10 rounds (5 round pistol excluded, obviously).

But to answer your question, the Gardai haven't asked me to do so.

I was talking to a nice lady in the Firearms Policy Unit about a reprint of a license one day and she went through all my licenses apparently updating the database with the mag capacities. I think she said something about it appearing on our licenses in the future. I may have got the wrong end of the stick on that last point though.

It's clear that plugging magazines for pistols to achieve the 5 round capacity is legal but it's pretty unclear if there's permission to plug a rifle magazine in the same way.

So, if my Super said 3 rounds in your Ruger 10/22, how do I achieve that, legally?

Yep, that's what I'd do. But we aren't certain if plugging a rifle magazine is legal or not as there's no specific S.I. for it (as there is for a pistol).

I don't know the answer to this but it's possible you could be complying with the condition of your licence but also breaking the law at the same time.

No magazine capacity is 5 legally so that is fine unless it is a revolver than 6 shots is not allowed

On my last .22 rifle renewal, I was asked what was my magazine capacity, I have 5 round magazines so when my license was renewed it came out with a limit of 5 rounds on the back of the license, when I questioned this with the FO, I was told that if I wanted to buy a 10 round magazine inform them and they will reprint my license.

However, there seems a lack of continuity, never always ideal in these situations.

Interesting if someone was told to have CCTV installed before being given a restricted licence, just as an example. Would that requirement be then still legally valid if not included on the grant letter or the licence. It would be a condition beyond the morm and not listed anywhere. My feeling would be that if not listed on the grant letter at least then it would have no standing, even if AGS had insisted on it in writing. My point is that the grant letter or perhaps even just the cert becomes the requirement.

On another point, my latest grant letter states .. subject to the following conditions.. and then just asks for 80 quid. Also, there is nowhere for a person to acknowledge the conditions before paying the fee such as you would have with a tick box in a totally on line situation. That in itself should surely suggest that any conditions should be on the actual cert. If not enough space to elaborate then there should be some reference to a condition. It would be a different scenario if we had to go on line, acknowledge the conditions and then pay, in order to proceed with the cert.

I think that's probably the case. There may not be a facility to record the mag capacity in a separate field in Pulse, I don't know. That could be why it's appearing now on the certs. Effectively just a more detailed description of the firearm. Nothing more sinister than that.

However, if someone gets licensed and cert says a Remington 700 with 5 round capacity, I'd be concerned that by inference the same rifle might be unlicensed if the owner put in a 10 round as then it would not match the specific description on the cert. Like a lot of these administrative issues, not important at all, until it is..and then you have a legal eagle saying silence is agreement..

Intentional, or not, I see this causing problems -

First, the licence will state X round capacity, for info.

Then, it'll evolve into your limit, and also, it'll be used as a basis to reduce the ammunition allowance.

Substitutions will then have to be like for like, incl. magazine capacity.

By the time they've finished, anything over 5 rounds will be restricted, and you'll be doing a special course etc. to apply for a ten round 22 mag.

10 round magazine is the limit non-restricted rimfires. It doesn't exclude the chamber.

I got a renewal approved recently for a 22lr.

Checked the licence this morning and my maximum capacity is 8 rounds ( would never have even noticed except for this thread).

I currently have 2 five round mags and a ten shot. I must talk to CZ about purchasing one of their 8 shot magazines.

That's exactly what I intend to do.

I assume that there isn't even an 8 shot mag available.

What I was trying to point out(badly) is the stupidity of giving me an 8 shot allowance, when no such magazine exists.

@freddieot Interesting if someone was told to have CCTV installed before being given a restricted licence, just as an example. Would that requirement be then still legally valid if not included on the grant letter or the licence. It would be a condition beyond the morm and not listed anywhere

Providing of course,it isn't a level of security that can be justified and not to the point of vexation. IOW wants real-time monitoring of CCTV and a moat filled with sharks, with laser beams mounted on their heads, and of course, it is being applied to all restricted owners in a district.

As for the mag capacity issue on rifles.Beats me why,unless you actually do have a single shot or double rifle.Why everyone isn't just saying on their applications,or queries ten shots straight away,as most rifles nowadays with detachable mags are a ten shot from the factory by default.Doesn't say anywhere that you have to possess a ten-shot mag for the rifle.Just whats its max legal/unrestricted or restricted capacity?

Im don’t follow which part of my post that makes untrue? We are aware it’s happen, I gave a means to clarify at the start rather than after the fact.

Did you see this part: "If people are applying for 10-shot [rifles], it will say 10 rounds."

I'd imagine that many, if not everyone, being restricted are not including their mag capacity on the form. Leaving it up to the default, or whatever is on the system. It's understandable, as there was never a need to before.

The example I gave was my Ruger American (the standard one, not the AICS mag one). If anybody looked up that rifle online, all the specs available from Ruger would say it's a 4 round. If I left it blank, it may be limited to 4 rounds and I understand their logic. So if it were me, I'd be requesting 10 rounds from the get go.

I'm open to correction, but I don't believe there was ever any record or approval for 10-round mags. People could just own them, legally, if they had an appropriate license. Now seems like a good time to get them on record.

What about pistols they can take ten technically but limited to five