Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

But the on street parking is for people on both sides of the street, so some have to cross either way.

I agree completely, it should be a two way cycle path on one side (probably the school side) with parking on the other side. What they have created now is dangerous for Children cycling to school. Putting parking on the other side of the street would also have been safer for kids been driven to school as they could exit the parked car onto a footpath, rather then into the middle of a cycle lane!

BTW they have done even crazier stuff with this cycle lane in the past week, I’ll post some pictures of it tomorrow if I get time!

Quick fix! .... 3 and a half years and counting!

"In situations like this, where there are houses along both sides of the road, single lanes on each side is probably the best option as putting them on one side would bring huge opposition from residents on that side."

But Dun Laoghaire County Council have done exactly this on the same types of roads in the south of the city with no issues.

Some do, but at some places it is hard to do as there are cars parked on the outside of the cycle lane that block it from easily getting in and out of. In the above case you would cycle in front of a car coming from behind you, as they are all coming from a junction where the lights just turned green, so definitely some cars coming in the road too. The junctions have little bicycle traffic lights that turn green a second or two before the car traffic light turns green, too allow the cyclist to get a head start, but in this case it means the cyclist would be waiving in front of a car coming in a second. Not really safe.

As I mentioned, the design isn’t fit for purpose, no space to overtake slower cyclists (young kids), so people have to pop in and out of the cycle lane. A pretty dangerous thing to do and a situation easily avoided had I been a wider two way bike lane.

I would say this is a fine wide footpath, with plenty of space for all, plus a little further up the street there is actually an official cycle path on the footpath. Of course if they built a proper cycle path, non of this would be necessary.

"I'm a cyclist, but don't really consider that being slowed down by another slow-moving cyclist ahead of me is actually a sign of a design flaw. I don't have any inherent right to have a cycle lane that allows me go unimpeded at my own maximum speed. Slow down, slot in behind, tut a bit to yourself, and overtake when it becomes safe to do so - a bit like regular road traffic on a single lane road."

No one is talking about maximum speed here, these people were mostly women on Dutch style commuter bikes, that don't go much faster then 15km/h. Non of them were cycling fast!

You really can't cycle fast on this cycle lane, it is too narrow, with too many junctions and cars parked next to it, with doors opening into the cycle lane.

The issue is that little kids (like 7 or 8) or also using this cycle lane to cycle to school. It isn't shown in the above picture, but the reason for the delay was there was a little boy of around 8 and his dad cycling in front of this group at no more then 5km/h.

Asking people to slow down that much is silly, as it would make cycling pointless.

BTW not that little kids shouldn't be using this cycle path, the whole stated purpose of this cycle path was to build a safe cycle path for children to cycle to school and to imrpove the road safety around the three schools which was and still is dreadful. I'd argue that is has failed miserably at all that.