The Pandemic is officially over!

Again zero facts zero evidence... I made specific points about covid v flu. Do you agree that covid is more infectious and more severe overall than flu? And on what basis do you do so? What is remotely cult like about that statement?

And you lecture me about blindly following with added nonsense about a cult?

Am happy to discuss masks on the masks thread. As for distancing have you forgotten the outbreaks of cases in meat factories?

The reasons we why had the restrictions were to reduce spread so that the severe cases would be on a scale healthcare could cope with.

Its an infectious disease - the authorities were clear from the outset most cases would be mild but the less vulnerable people with mild symptoms could spread it to those more vulnerable. A significant percentage of adults are in that cohort - look at hospital and ICU stats. Eg the 60 year olds with high blood pressure who pulled through ICU. And even among the other cohorts, smaller risk but many cases sends numbers to hospital needing care.

Every major health authority in the world correctly treated covid as a serious threat for that reason, of a different order to flu.

Dont even think - your words not mine. Explains a lot of what you have written.

That is blatant medical misinformation. You are mixing up coronaviruses as a whole and groups within it.

Covid is not considered a common cold.

From Wiki:

Coronaviruses are a group of related RNA viruses that cause diseases in mammals and birds. In humans and birds, they cause respiratory tract infections that can range from mild to lethal. Mild illnesses in humans include some cases of the common cold (which is also caused by other viruses, predominantly rhinoviruses), while more lethal varieties can cause SARS, MERS and COVID-19, which is causing the ongoing pandemic.

The question is, when will Covid be over for all of you people who are continuing to post here? Serious question. Do you have date in mind? An event? What? Why are you still posting here? To what end?

A poster just up-thread mentioned the Japanese soldiers still fighting WWII years after it had ended. There's a real bang of it off this Coronavirus forum. I rarely look at them and it appears I haven't missed much at all. It's still the same people arguing over and over again over the same points. Why? I'd love to see some honest answers. All I can see is a group of people who are addicted to posting here and can't shake the habit.

Hindsight is great. A pure gift.

It's now 2023, and it's unbelievable how hindsight creates educated geniuses & experts that hadn't a clue, or a word to say on boards.ie when hospital footage was beamed in from Italy in 2020 along with 1900 deaths.

Should Hindsighter be a new common noun?

"outspoken boards.ie hindsighter claims, on hindsight, there was an overreaction to the Covid virus in Ireland"

"popular hindsighter with lots of thanks on their post on boards.ie says Italy should have known better with hindsight, given what we know now"

"knowledgeable & trailblazing boarsd.ie member hindsighter jumps on to their keyboard to mock nervous 2020 elderly mask wearers who wore masks outdoors given what they know now in 2023"

Some irresponsible posting in this thread. Covid remains a threat, if you wish to deny that you are free to do so but equally this unscientific world view doesn't reflect reality. A 2 week lockdown in the summer might be the appropriate antidote to the covid complacency which has been creeping in, if only to remind people how quickly things can change. The fact that people need to be reminded of that after what we've been through is mind blowing to me. We're not out of the woods yet.

That post was obviously a wind up but the scary thing is that there are people out there who actually hold that opinion.

Its chilling that society allowed such people to dictate our lives and take away civil liberties so easily.

More statements of fact presented without evidence. It is obvious when you do so it is because you have none. Dressing it up as 'perfectly obvious' is obvious bluster to conceal this.

The restrictions were unlawful - again you dont even try to explain how. This is not worthy of serious consideration.

And they are vaccines. Call them by their proper name. Calling them injections is an anti vax trope.

They are vaccines. Why wont you call them by their actual accurate name?

It is false because you are being deliberately vague about them for obvious anti vax reasons.

Your other dig at them that they werent positive is simply medical misinformation without foundation.

The available evidence cited on this forum demonstrates how they reduced severity and deaths from covid. You do not challenge this evidence. You do not provide evidence of your own. Your claims are false.

Looks like Long Covid becoming a catch-all is unavoidable, since it is hard to seperate what is/was directly related to the bug and what down to surrounding circumstances.

Did you read the article?

There were control groups in the study. Therefore it deliberately tried to separate what was related to covid infection and the surrounding circumstances.

Both control groups had no evidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection. Participants in all three comparison groups were free of diabetes before cohort entry and were followed up for a median of 352 days (IQR 245–406)... In the post-acute phase of the disease, compared with the contemporary control group, people with COVID-19 exhibited an increased risk (HR 1·40, 95% CI 1·36–1·44) and excess burden (13·46, 95% CI 12·11–14·84, per 1000 people at 12 months) of incident diabetes; and an increased risk (1·85, 1·78–1·92) and excess burden (12·35, 11·36–13·38) of incident antihyperglycaemic use.