Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Be interesting to see how this affects the next election. I dont see any mainstream parties are going to tackle this in their manifestos but expect when pushes comes to shove the voters will still vote for these mainstream parties. 75% may be against mass immigration but 75% may still vote for the parties that accept this is need to support the economy ,at least in the ballot box.

They honestly think they can win this war just by repeating "far right". It's beyond mindless. In their minds using terms like that is like striking a knife into the heart of the movement, yet in reality every time they abuse said term their knife gets blunter and blunter. Ironically for such "progressive" minds they are literally incapable of adapting.

While I agree with your some of your comment in principle , there are issues with far right activists spewing their hate all over social media . Anonymous, no accountability.

In the non anonymous real world, these bad actors are clear for all to see and can be debunked by those who can see both their background and those who back them financially and politically .

(The current head of the National Party in Ireland is one , as is the editor of Gript . )

They too have very powerful people all over the world in whose interest it is to keep liberal democracies under threat .

To say that 25% of those who agree with current immigration policies are all people who have a financial interest in keeping it going is like the posters saying that 75% are all far right .

It is obviously a small proportion, but not the whole 25% .

what? so all those ancestry DNA tests and ticking the Irish box on any official form has been a waste of time? We are fortunate to have active large scale genome studies ongoing and benefitting because there has been such limited immigration to Ireland since the 12th cent. And at that, even the Normans assimilated, adopted customs and intermarried adopting the Gael culture. Typically, Irish population can be broken down into several geographically stratified genetic clusters, the majority of which are Gael- Irish. The other are shared Irish- British ancestry and the latter most pronounced as expected in the North.

Despite your attempt to dismiss an entire ethnicity, ethnic Irish do exist.

The Irish ethnicity is made up of Celts, Normans who are ethnically Vikings, Viking, and Gaels. It has remained dominantly so since the 12th century and earlier and thus, is Irish ethnicity.

Never have I referenced one ethnicity as superior to another, ridiculous assertion and a silly attempt at baiting. We are on an Irish forum, in Ireland discussing a situation in Ireland and thus, discussing Irish ethnicity.

Hey I only meant that the people with the financial interest were *within* that 25%.

Although often "liberal" middle-class people are in jobs - high verbal IQ jobs bureaucratic roles, in some cases - where they cannot be easily replaced by new foreign entrants to the country from different nationalities.

If someone is hiding behind a pseudonym that is a sign that they are relatively powerless imo.

No I didn't say that.

I said that people who are within the political minority holding staunch pro-immigration beliefs (25% or so) are often free of any personal concern about foreign competition as regards their own highly specialised role. They won't face diluted wages, increased competition when jobs are scarce (which they aren't right now, I'm aware of that) or restructuring of the kind of work they do.

It is only one dimension to the debate and I was only explaining to @Goldengirl that I'm aware pro-immigrationism isn't solely the preserve of businessmen with a financial interest in bloating the labour pool with cheap workers.

@suvigirl 'And do you think Irish people are superior to other nationalities?'

Does it even matter whether Irish people are superior, inferior or the same as other nationalities? Most nationalities want their own homeland and HUGE mass migrations of other nationalities are either not permitted or, as in Ireland, most ordinary people will object if their opinion is even asked.

Native Fijians were often not happy about the British Empire organising mass migrations of Indians into Fiji.

The Soviet Union transferring masses of ethnic Russians to live in satellite countries like Georgia and Ukraine has negative geopolitical reverberations today.

These were peaceable transfers of people that disrupted homogenous societies. Does it mean that x or y group is inferior? No

The poster that brought up the subject stated that ethnic Irish would be a minority in Ireland.

I would like to know what exactly that means? And why would having immigration into the country of other nationalities really matter in relation to ethnic Irish?

And there is no foreign power planting people into our country. Very different

Its obvious at this stage that big business wants to grow populations for consumerism while at the same time make everyone pay more for a lower standard of living and a lot less through so called greener measures being pushed.

Yall live in a coffin type box accommodation which you wont ever own while paying through the nose for it. Eat bugs and be surrounded by millions more doing the same or lower down the chain of existence.

Meanwhile our betters can point to these people and say aren't ya living better than them so appreciate what you have.

My advice to people with kids. This along with many issues is a concern for them. If not now it will be major later on.

My future conspiracy theory view anyways.

How many countries had devastating famines, exactly 200 years ago?

If the banning abortions and restricting birth control industry ever joined forces with the environmental laws to make you live longer industry, you'd be on the money.

Dont know what abortions and birth control got to do with it considering you have a massive resource of adult people in the third world already to pool from ever growing

I consider myself irish. That okay with you?