Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Yeah, I'm Irish too.

Possibly.... or they just believe in a different more inclusive society.

Lot more people in that category than are credited here.

Some people are less driven by economic factors and their beliefs are so altruistic they would give the shirt off their back to help others.

Others are more centrist and will do as much as they can afford which is very fair

I do think a lot of pretty centrist peoole are in the 75% that would have been more in favour of immigration before this current burst and flurry.

Now getting worried about housing and being taken for a ride both by the government and people who are coming into the country.

Its not black and white though (no pun intended!)

And there are people in that 75% who hate any racism or bigotry and would go the opposite way very quickly if they see any violence or intimidation of refugees.

1.5m Irish born people are currently living abroad (presumably with many of them working). We would really want to have some hard neck to try and put a halt to freedom of movement for EU citizens who wish to come here to work.

I think it's predictable Ireland has been in an economic boom at least the past 7 years go to and shop or hotel supermarket a large part of the staff are obviously from EU country's. We simply do not have enough Irish people to fill all the jobs especially in places like cafes hotels our economy depends on being part of the eu and allowing workers to come here

The problem is our health service cannot keep up with demand we have a housing crisis we have a shortage of certain workers like builders doctors

I read today some polish workers are going back to Poland as the rents housing cost here here is much more expensive than in Poland I cannot tell how you can look at a YouTube video and tell who is Irish or from the EU eg Poland France etc

If you read about USA immigration it's alot worse than Ireland eg 1000s of people are arriving everyday in states near Mexico

'I read today some polish workers are going back to Poland as the rents housing cost here here is much more expensive than in Poland'

Though they get called immigrants, many Poles in Ireland appear to be guest workers engaged in a form of arbitrage. High Irish wages saved up and then exchanged for Polish currency goes a long way back in Poland.

1 Euro = 4.49 Polish Zloty

Some Irish people take advantage of arbitrage when they relocate to Spain or Portugal with their savings.

Can you name any country in the developed world that is taking active steps to try and stop legal migration to its shores?

Gulf Arab states let in non-citizen guest workers without enfranchising them. Japan is fairly sceptical of migration in general.

However I'm not understanding the point of your question. Any and every developed-world country could choose to take active steps to try and stop legal migration if they chose to. The fact that they don't just proves that.. they don't.

There's a Dublin based company that provides a service to discuss issues and see if the participants know things.

Yet any country can choose to change their policy.

I don't see the status quo itself as a validation of the status quo. That's a little circular to me.

Plus as discussed earlier these countries are often frustrating majority opinion with these unpopular inward mass migration policies.

Typically, I would chime in on migration-related threads. I’m of the opinion that the volume of inward migration to Ireland is unsustainably high. The demographic pressures are already impacting under-funded services, including education and healthcare. Just as significant are the societal repercussions. The cohesiveness of Irish society is being systematically dismantled and I do worry about the fragmented society my young children will inherit. Frankly, it makes me sad.

However, I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s futile to try debate this issue on Boards. It’s the same set of circular arguments from a small cohort of posters, some of whom have been around the block before in different incarnations. Both sides are screaming into the void at one another, implacably entrenched in their own position. It’s utterly pointless.

Instead, talk to your family, your friends, and your colleagues when the opportunity arises. Very many Irish people are feeling anxious and deeply unsettled by the highly visible demographic change happening before our eyes. It isn’t ‘far right’ to have concerns that the very foundations of our society are changing beneath our feet. It’s a perfectly rational response to a directionless, misguided policy.

More importantly, talk to your public representatives. Articulate your concerns, let them know that they have no mandate to implement the levels of migration this country is currently experiencing. Change is inevitable; it needs to happen before the current dysfunctional administration irrevocably damages our beautiful country. One thing for certain, is that change will not happen by engaging with incognito online personae on an obscure, dying website. It will only come about by engaging with people in the real world and expressing your legitimate concerns around the current situation.

Oh sorry, you seemed to think Ireland was different......

I have shown you one, here's a list of famines on Wikipedia, I don't have the time to be doing the work for you.....

And there you have it folks, the canonical example..

You asked the question, I answered it for you. Adding education to a thread is clearly adding to it.

Well said and reflects a lot of ordinary people. I've certainly contacted our local TDs on these and related matters. And the topic comes up with family and neighbours. There is a sense that the very nature of Irish society is shifting under our feet. We don't all want to live in some homogenised world.