Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

The discussion of immigration comes up a lot with friends and family these days.

Which lines up with the results of recent polls.

Anyone who is a realist can see we have several crises as it is that are being made worse.

It is not racist for anyone to ask why the government is allowing policies that is making existing crises worse for them.

It's just common sense despite the government and media calling ordinary concerned citizens far right.

They may think this tactic is working but in reality it's just making people angry.

You make a well argued point and are perfectly entitled to take the view that high net immigration is not necessarily a good thing for Ireland.

However, many would disagree with the idea that strong net immigration can be bad for a country. It is usually a sign of a country, an economy and a society that is doing extremely well - people wouldn't want to move to a depressing kip of a place with few employment prospects. The big question is can you have a booming economy, but not have the strong inward immigration that accompanies it? Many (most?) economists are of the view that one is driving the other i.e. the strong net immigration (including of returning emigrants) is a key driver of economic growth, alongside the other good factors in the economy that are happening.

Another major problem for those opposed to strong net immigration is that the global population is becoming ever more mobile with each passing year. The idea that Ireland could ever return to the monoculture of the 1920s-1980s is unfeasible. 24% of the population of Iceland - a remote and geographically hostile place, previously with the strongest of monocultures - were born abroad. Forcibly trying to stop people from moving here against this new reality seems totally unrealistic - our definition of what it means to be 'Irish' in coming decades is clearly going to change. This change was always coming down the tracks with the arrival of global air travel.

They will get a few hundred votes like they always do.

Surely you want them to do well considering anyone who disagrees with you is far right.

Them doing terribly will show your logic for what makes someone far right is a load of nonsense.

Cutting the tap to immigration suddenly is definitely a way to decrease the wealth of the country as shown in the uk, even the most ardent brexiteers like Farage have acknowledged that. Some failures of the government here like in the uk are unfairly attributed to immigration.

Of the total number of applicants in 2022, 32% were women and 18% were children.

There are more women then men in Ireland

Print that off and hand it round the arrivals hall at Dublin airport. Immigrants have no idea how bad it is here.

The grass is rarely greener. Old Ireland may not have been rich and certainly had its problems, but I'd trade everything we have now for what we once had. For all our past failures we probably had some of the best societal cohesion and social trust levels of any nation in the world, and that to me is worth far more than money.

Reminds me of my mam's neighbour, she said something similar one day.... Ireland was never racist till all these foreigners started coming here.

I for one remember the 70s & 80s and I would take the country we have today, for it's few faults over the country we had then.

Still relying on the tired old "blaming immigrants" argument. Most people lay the blame on the state, as you well know. It's literally been said thousands of times on boards, yet posters like yourself always go back to the same point, as it's all you have.

The modern Irish state is the modern Irish state, every current party would do literally nothing to fix said problems, as they are all the one mind, yet wear different robes. You have the likes of Holly Cairns, who's praised by the dimmest of us for simply pointing to obvious problem, yet I never hear any solutions from her or anyone else.

The fact that you rank things like racism or anti racism so highly on the measuring scale of a good/functional society, say so much about your values.

Most countries driven by the ideology of multiculturism and equality have declined in nearly every other metric. That's not to say that I support discrimination before you land your cheap below, I don't, but some may say that there's far more worrying concerns for people in their daily lives than diversity and inclusion.

This goes without saying really , that quality of life is important , but not that we can ignore the health of our economy at the same time.

Do you think we can all just live on Irishness alone ?

The economy and quality of life are intrinsically linked .

Try telling me or anybody who was trying to get by through the 70s and 80s that the two aren't .

Believe we were all ethnic Irish back then, pretty miserable and couldn't leave the place fast enough !

Our own economy..GDP .. is growing but the corporate sector has shrunk the last two quarters because of world effects and job losses in the tech sector , so technically the country is now in recession . Barely but still it is a fact .

So much money floating around from corporate tax receipts have either been salted away or spent on tinkering around the edges . This money may now have to be used to bail us out with social and affordable housing and services , as should have been done better in the fat years .

Otherwise we will all feel the pain and a lot worse than it is now, you can be guaranteed

It's a total nonsense to say 'leave Ireland's wealth and economic growth ' out of the discussion.

As per my post above , the current situation in the UK is an example of what not to do as regards immigration .

I don't think the average person in the UK is raving about their 'quality of life ' at the present time .

They have literally cut off their nose to spite their face , as predicted by many other countries watching by over the last few years.

If I ran the Irish state we would have never gotten into this mess in the first place. Many, many of us saw this all coming a long time ago, yet the people choose to ignore what was coming, as people often do. Now many of those same people are on these threads complaining about the issue tat they should have seen coming.

What question? Anti racism exists in multicultural societies, and serves as a tool to continue endless immigration of all sorts of people from all sorts of cultures, with no care for the explosion that will arrive eventually. The anti racist does not care one jot about how far a society falls or crumbles, once they can stand on the ruins and pat themselves on the back for how good they are. We're essentially giving away a high quality life just so some narcissists can feel good about themselves.

Total bs and laughable . Old Ireland was a grim place where people took pleasure in the small things because that was all they had and that was all the church allowed them to have .

Go on and pull the other one .;)