Irish Prison Service (Prison Officer) to Civil Servcie (EO) - Incremental Credit?

scullersky · 05-06-2023 11:11pm #1

I work as a Prison Officer (we are classed as Civil Service). I applied for EO in the Civil Service for several personal reasons and I was successfull.

As my job as a Prison Officer was also Civil Service, does anyone know how Incremental Credit would work?

For example say I am now on €47,000 basic pay, should I be put on the nearest increment when I take up the new role or start at the bottom?

Any thoughts welcome....

michael031987 · 05-06-2023 11:22pm

Incremental credit only applies where the roles are similar in nature. A prison officer duties would not be considered similar to the duties of an EO. Therefore incremental credit will not apply and you will take up the new role at point 1 of the EO scale

scullersky · 05-06-2023 11:28pm

It is more similar than you realise! Also a funny thing I recently learned was that each rank in the Irish Prison Service payscale is linked to a Civil Service Pay grade. For example, Prison Officer is actually aligned to Staff Officer grade! I really don't mind either way, of course it would be better if I got some incremental credit, I am just really looking forward to change!

Turtyturd · 06-06-2023 11:00am

What are the similarities?

scullersky · 06-06-2023 11:19am

In my role I'm office based dealing with lots of paperwork. We deal with pay, compliance and audit too.

06-06-2023 1:53pm

https://circulars.gov.ie/pdf/circular/per/2019/08.pdf

I personally know of somebody who went from the Guards to the Civil service and their salary was matched and they were given one extra increment.

The above circular mentions both the civil service and public service.

Turtyturd · 07-06-2023 11:00am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120681658#Comment_120681658

Ah fair enough…I thought you meant the regular duties as they’re normally PASO roles.

There was a PASO who came over from the Gards a few years ago and started on the top of the scale so I reckon you could make a similar case.

big_drive · 07-06-2023 11:26am

Just said I'd ask here when I saw this mentioned. On another thread I asked would a primary teacher be allowed carry over increment allowance?

Given the level of paperwork in teaching and use of ICT, etc. Lot of transferable skills

Offaly lad · 29-06-2023 2:59pm

Don't know

doc22 · 01-07-2023 4:47pm

If the top scale of the EO is higher than Prision officer salary scale then incremental credit wouldn't come into it, if you have achieved a promotion in public/civil to civil service you recieve the next closeness point on scale to current salary(plus 1 depending on amounts), doesn't matter if prior role is relevant to new one at all.

I don't really agree with the above as civil serive staff don't autmaticallly get the same benefits joining other public service orgs in promotion type situations.

michael031987 · 02-07-2023 1:11pm

The top scale of the EO is lower than the top of Prision officer salary scale so it may not be seen as a promotion.

Irish Prison Service (Prison Officer) to Civil Servcie (EO) - Incremental Credit?

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