Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

I would have thought at that with the extra runway capacity now available in DUB it would make a lot of sense to buy the airport land and relocate Baldonnel to the new land and use the airport runway. Many airports throughout Europe have military bases on/attached to civillian airports.

If Air Corps were to be relocated, it should be Shannon. Very little congestion problems, and better located for maritime surveillance operations

True old saying.

A paper never refused ink.

You have to love it when people make bald assertions, use the word "obviously" and then provide no evidence whatsoever.

Dublin has 1 airport

Paris has 4 CDG, Le Bourget, Orly, Beauvais

London has ? LHR/LGW/LCY/STN/LTN/SOU

Central Europe has the advantage of good rail connections and in many cases world class high speed rail which has taken a large % share of long distance travel, we don't and won't have this as an Island so our numbers will be distorted.

Sort out decent rail connections to Dublin airport, thats all we are missing really, no airport in Europe of Dublin's size lacks a rail connection

It'd need a third terminal and a rail link but that's got nothing to do with its location.

You've still provided absolutely nothing to tell us why you think "Dublin airport location is obviously not fit for those type of numbers".

It was at 33m passengers p.a. in 2019 and must be on course to equal or exceed this in 2023. The DAA has a large capital plan which, on a phased basis, if implemented, would add capacity on a whole range of fronts. So "the airport in its current form" is not a static position and, like most major airports, it almost always has some infrastructural developments under way.

The bussing arrangements in place for the Emerald ATRs are not ideal but Dublin is hardly the only place where bus transport to and from stands is part of the set-up. Try Frankfurt, where at times it seems to be a bit of a lottery as regards where a Lufthansa narrow-body aircraft will be parked, on both arrival and departure.

If you look at the passenger stats for Dublin, and even allowing for the last economic crisis, they grew from about 16m in 2003 to 33m by 2019 - a doubling in a decade and a half. Forty million can't be that far off - whether such growth will continue towards 50m is of course unknowable. I don't think that Dublin will become primarily a hub airport and the majority of passengers will continue to be people departing or arriving there. It's pretty clear that Dublin serves as the preferred airport for many in Northern Ireland as well, so the population of the whole island is a more relevant measure than just that of the Republic.

The rail connectivity issue would do an amount to address the pressures on the roads and associated infrastructure at and around the airport but unfortunately (and to put it mildly) it's hard to be confident about when this will be ready.

Don't let us be wasting your time now viewer78 on an aviation forum but the planning is there for a capacity of 40m PPA and could be started as early as next year with completion by the end of the decade, only time will tell if a 3rd terminal is required but if it is then capacity will definitely be there for 50m PPA or more.

Having Dublin as a transit hub is in the national interest due to the connectivity it adds to the country, an island nation, transit passengers make more routes and frequencies viable.

Take the Aer Lingus example routes of Hartford, CT, and Cleaveland, OH; the way to imagine this is that lets say there are 100 people in Ireland each day who'd like to fly to these places, without the hub they could never fill a 180 seat aircraft to make these routes viable, for those 100 people they'd then have to connect in LHR or JFK etc, losing out on a full day's work travelling.

Then consider the case where there's also 10 people in Manchester, 5 in Madrid, 6 in Hamburg, 12 in Amsterdam, 6 in Dusseldorf, 2 in Prague etc etc who want to travel to BDL or CLE, by bringing them all through Dublin as a HUB the routes to BDL/CLE are now viable routes and you can fill the 180 seats on the aircraft.

By making Dublin more connected you enable people to more efficiently work, you attract inward investment as well as businesses in these cities are more likely to set up a European office somewhere they can get to directly, and then also you can increase frequency on other routes to DUS/AMS/MAD/MAN/BCN/HAM/PRG etc etc as some of these seats will be filled by transit passengers, making the hub more efficient and offering more choice of times and frequency for Irish originating passengers.

I don't think without the DUB/HUB we'd have the same selection of routes, frequencies and connectivity as we currently have, so it's in our national interest to encourage the continuation development.

Dublin Airport is a thriving indigenous business enterprise in an industry in which the country is a major player (airports, airlines, leasing). It also contributes significantly to broader economic success as well as linking people together (including the Irish diaspora). So social and economic benefits.

There are certainly environmental questions to be addressed but everything else screams yes, Dublin Airport should continue to grow.

The other approach is the traditional Irish one which is to design our infrastructure based on minimum requirement for todays needs, so when it's eventually delivered 30 years in the future, it's not fit for purpose.

Also it's on an island of 7m and draws in passengers from all over that island.

The taxpayer won't be funding any works at DUB so if the DAA has a well thought out plan for future investment then what is the problem?

Then maybe get involved in the discussion. So far your only responses have been to nitpick at people for not agreeing with you. The level of discussion you want is there in peoples responses so engage with the responses.

1) 90% is O&D traffic

2) The Irish public does NOT fund the DAA or its construction investments.

3) The Irish taxpayer derives Billions in taxes

4) 100000s of jobs directly or indirectly are supported by the airport and its activities

5) recent report said a large portion of taxes come from a handful of Multinationals, tax incomes from diverse areas are much needed and welcome.

Now lay your cards on the table and finally tell us why you don’t want or think we should have a large airport in Dublin or Ireland.

Just over 3million passengers passed through in May. Good to see.