Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

Good account here in The Guardian around the background to why Harry is involved in this case

From Sky News- just a bit of clarity around what’s happening similar to the guardian article above:

How is the questioning carried out?Prince Harry has brought a civil case against Mirror Group Newspapers, not a criminal one.

It means that unlike in the criminal courts, where a witness will detail their full recollection of certain events, Harry is instead being questioned on what he's already put in his lengthy witness statement.

Andrew Green KC, for MGN, spent yesterday dissecting the document - and this will continue in this morning's session.

He's probing what the prince has said about 33 separate articles published in Mirror titles between 1996 and 2010 - all of which are claimed to have contained details obtained through phone hacking or other unlawful methods.

Today seems to be much of a repeat of yesterday overall

It may have been better that he didn’t take this course of action and keep up the more believable pretence that he or people close to him were indeed hacked.

His PR (arguable if he even has a PR these days) will try and spin this with how exceptionally hard it is to prove hacking and how beastly all these newspapers are.

He’s not coming out well here and you can see why the palace don’t do this kind of thing - the KC for the Mirror is an exceptionally clever individual- the RF are not known for being so bright

Prince Harry to you and I. No doubt he thought he would swing it as he seems to have gotten everything else he's ever wanted.

^^^ Also from that same link:

1:22PM

Overview of Duke's legal cases

Here is an overview of his current cases with a brief description to follow:

• Challenge against the Home Office over UK security arrangements
• Second case against Home Office in relation to UK security
• Libel claim over Mail on Sunday article on Home Office legal battle
• Allegations of unlawful information gathering at News Group Newspapers (NGN)
• Unlawful information gathering allegations against ANL
• Unlawful information gathering claim against Mirror Group Newspapers (MGN)

Jayzuz- it’s a full time job these legal cases- he’s admitted spending up to 1/2 a day at a time on calls with his lawyers. And in the meantime, he’s writing “tell all” books that he now has to admit are not quite accurate.

Its an extraordinary waste of time money and effort; especially considering he and his wife still rely on publicity to make a living - he could have done all of this on a few podcasts and probably gained a lot more respect for it.

Or they had access to telecom logs. A phone bill will itemize your calls.

He seems to have been very upset about the breakup with Chelsea, so I can see why he's angry about seeing it play out in the press.

I don't know what the burden of proof is in a civil case in the UK, but he doesn't seem to have offered much evidence, just his thoughts on how he might have been hacked and unsubstantiated claims of widespread destruction of evidence. It will be interesting to see the outcome.

Mmm, might further elucidate his crazed vendetta against tabloids if he blames them for the loss of his 'one true love' as well as his mother...

Yes the case seems gossamer-thin, you have to ask what kind of legal advice he was getting...

You are talking nonsense. There was massive evidence of what is referred to in this and previous trials on the same topic as 'phone hacking'. The call logs obtained by the Met police back in the 2014/5 trial showed how the phone messages were accessed by multiple phones. The phone companies have records of when, where and from what number the voice mail was accessed which is what we are talking about here. With Harry it was his mobile which he alleges was 'hacked', this is not wire tapping on a landline. To intercept mobile phone conversations is extremely difficult and government level activity, especially back then, You would be 'tapping'the whole network traffic from that tower, or you would have to have equipment and be in the vacinity of the person while they were on a call. The default password on all phones back in those days was 0000. The vast majoroty of people back then did not change this password or if they did, they changed it to 1111, or, 1234. That is how journalists were able to access the messages (not the calls themsevles), anyone could access anyone's messages as long as they knew the mobile number and guessed the password but the call logs at the mobile company recorded the number that accessed the phone, which is where most of the evidence came from in that trial, they were found guilty and people went to jail Harry has produced none of this. Its entirely possible it was Chelsea's phone that was 'hacked' not Harry's. Or someone at the phone company was paid off to print out the phone logs so they could count the calls. No one is saying that this didnt happen at the time to many, many people, or that it wasnt illegal.

TLDR; 2015 called, it want its scandal back.

So, in your world it was all legal and above board to listen to people voicemail and access their call logs. Oh dear!

How do you know how she feels about the whole saga? She broke up with Harry in 2010. She only got married last year (at the age of 37). It seems a very long time to settle down after her relationship with Harry.

No, again. No one is saying that. You are literally making it up.

Not per se, no they aren't saying that. Within the context of what we are talking about here, this court case, and people other than the nameholder on the account (Harry) having access or sharing details of it to the Mirror Group.