Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

you forgot the prototype, Andy Carroll.

Surely MacAllister with premiership experience and a full preseason under his belt will be up to speed and a starter from the opening game?

You would imagine he's going to be Thiago's replacement. He is not even related to the type of player that Hendo at his peak was. McAllister will not be bombing up and down the right wing while covering for Trent when required...i would assume we have someone lined up to replace Hendo!

A new No.6 has to be the priority now, unless anyone thinks MacAlister will play there?

We have plenty of rotation options in Hendo, Thiago, we need to sign 3 starting midfielders and last years starters will become the rotation options.

We should always be looking to improve the first 11.

The way Jones finished the season he deserves to be starting the first game next year.

I honestly think Henderson should drop out of the starting 11 most weeks now and be brought on for the last 20/30 minutes to add his experience to see a game out. By doing that you'd hope that we'd see the best of him again as he's not running himself into the ground for 80/90 minutes week in, week out.

West Ham will be joining us in the Europa League next season

Jones will be in direct competition with Mac Allister for the left midfielder slot.

the club used that AI song to announce Mac Allister signing!!

Brilliant!

Looks like he will wear #10 too.

I think, like a lot on the internet, people are talking about the extremes but the argument gets picked up by those in the middle

I don't think anyone's got an issue with "X hasn't impressed me yet, hopefully they improve as they find their feet", but there are a few "X is ****, I've always said it" posts that are tedious at best

With Nunez, there's a lot of amplification of opposing views. It gets started off by unconstructive bitching and ends with people who think he's been disappointing and needs to improve arguing with people who think he's shown glimpses of what that improvement could be, but the argument is as if those views are "he'll never make it" and "he's already world class". Opposing views are misrepresented so the argument isn't accurate

Ultimately, if you think a player isn't cutting it, that's fine. But if you're real fan of the club I think you should be hoping they turn it around and prove you wrong. And there's a very small number of posters who don't. The rest of us are all much closer in our opinions than we think

Edit: I'm an hour behind everyone else.

I've called robbo a donkey more times than I care to admit, including at anfield in a volume I'm fairly sure he could hear me at, that's part and parcel of the game.

Spanners on here called Gakpo a flop 20 minutes into the first half of his first game, that is wormbrain behaviour.

Done deal, I just hope Brighton don't call the police .

Both Thaigo and Matip are 32 with 12 months left on their contracts, there's not a snowdrops chance in hell we're getting 15m for each of them! Thiago won't be going anywhere either, he's on 200k a week and will run down his contract and get himself a nice free transfer swansong move next summer. Klopp is a massive fan of Jones so he won't be moved on either, and it will be a loan move for Carvalho if anything. The only players on that list that could be potentially moved on for any money are Kelleher, Phillips, Matip and Williams and if we got 35m in total for the lot we would be doing well!

If anything Brighton has fleeced us as his contract was due to run out this summer before he signed a new in October last year. You suspect the player and club came to an agreement where he would sign the extension and they would allow him to leave for a small fee. The alternative was losing him for nothing and he wanted to repay them for what they did for him. Worked out well I would think, Brighton get £35m for him, he gets his transfer and we look like we get a bargain.

West Ham Liverpool final in Dublin would be some event.

We have been very fortunate that Salah hasn't had a major injury keep him out of the team. The shoulder injury in 2018 was during the last game of the season and in 2019 the issue with his ankle kept him out of the squad for only one game but it was obvious when he played that he was in some discomfort.

One criticism I have of Klopp is his failure to use the panel of midfield players when they were available. In the past rotation has been done out of necessity instead of as a means to maintain the levels of the first choice players. In 2021/22, Oxlade-Chamberlain was used as a substitute up to and during the January transfer window. He was strongly linked with a move to West Ham at the end of the transfer window but it didn't happen. In the first half of the season, he had filled in as a substitute for Keita, Thiago, Milner, Henderson, Jota and Salah, but for whatever reason his services weren't utilised afterwards. The midfield rotation became Fabinho, Henderson, Thiago, Keita and Milner. It was only when they began to burn out that Jones made a couple of appearances and Elliott also got a start but Oxlade-Chamberlain sat out games even though he wasn't injured. By the time Klopp had introduced the young players to relieve the load on Fabinho, Henderson and Thiago it was too late.

Lessons may have been learned but the parallels between the 2020/21 and 2022/23 seasons give me pause for thought. When the pressure is on Klopp falls back to his old habits and using a small group of players instead of properly rotating those that are available is an example of that. It would be awesome to see him consistently utilise a panel of 6/7 midfielders for the entire season but I don't think it will happen.

I'm curious as to what Gomez has done to retain his place in the squad given the scale of your clear out.

The reports in Argentina said that he turned down ten Hag after hearing the role he would be expected to play - he doesn't want to play as a #6. Klopp very much wants him to play in the opposition's half close to the forward line but have some more defensive responsibility also.

Its good to know that season was unacceptable from the management and we are not waiting around on the rebuild.

Jay Spearing played in the Champions League.

I think Alexis will manage somehow.

Oh I know I'm more commenting on the speed of this signing, there has been talk he was coming for a month or so.

Khephren Thuram, deal close, apparently

I think that the primary issue with signing Thuram is that PSG have shown interest in him. Agreeing terms with him was never likely to be an issue, but agreeing a fee with OGC Nice could be a stumbling block if PSG's interest is genuine.