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Road accidents, young tractor drivers and driver licencing

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  • #92
    DBK1
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120675980#Comment_120675980

    I don’t see how it could have caused a major accident? He wasn’t on the road, both of ye were there in the field. I’m sure if he had to stop baling for some reason, maybe a blockage, breakdown etc. his father would have left you and went over to him. Once the 12 year old was in the tractor and understands the workings of the baler I don’t see how he was causing any greater danger than anyone else baling.

    Obviously it depends on the child too but I know 10 year olds that grew up with machinery that’d be better drivers than most adult farmers judging by the attempts some of them make to stack bales or reverse a trailer in a mart yard.



  • #93
    awaywithyou
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120676035#Comment_120676035

    neighbour lets his son do alot of baling... hes 11/12... he is warned to within an inch of his life not to leave tractor if a problem occurs with baler...



  • #94
    K.G.
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    My 2 lads now licensed but they started away from about 13 on but the key is supervision and training.to be fair to them they have turned out to be steady operators on tractors but there's a bit of luck involved too.if the field is level and there is nothing in close proximity its relatively safe-11 or 12 is a bit young but I ve no doubt he knows exactly how it works. Going back to our lads they really seem to have got the message that rooting and tearing means repairs and gear destroyed which helps to temper the speed-in fact they claim I m the most heavy footed and give out to me instead



  • #95
    kirk.
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    Had a young lad blowing the horn all the way through town

    I usually stick to about 30k in the town itself

    Phone use is a big issue , more so than cars imv



  • #96
    DBK1
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120678780#Comment_120678780

    Couldn’t agree more, it’s about training and supervision. If a lad has a head for machinery then age is irrelevant to a certain extent.



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  • #97
    Reggie.
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    Part of training to is to supervise from a distance. Let them get comfortable on the seat on thoer own while your close enough to stop a dangerous situation but far enough away that you aren't leaning over thier shoulder.



  • #98
    magicbastarder
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120678819#Comment_120678819

    hardly a model for a licencing system though? a parent's opinion of a kid is grand and all, but the fatalities recently obviously involved kids whose parents thought they were capable.



  • #99
    DBK1
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120686156#Comment_120686156

    I never said anything about modelling a licensing system so I don’t know where you’re getting that from, I just stated a simple fact that some lads understand machinery and some don’t, regardless of age.



  • #100
    magicbastarder
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    the main thrust of the thread (and explicitly asked in the OP) is about changing the licencing system for tractors. hence the observation.



  • #101
    Packrat
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    I see the "I hate all farmers because big tractors, derp derp, eu grants, something something something climate change, basically I'm unhappy with my own life and jealous of people who own anything" person/people have arrived...

    The thread will now go well from here on I'd imagine.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



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  • #102
    looksee
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120691582#Comment_120691582

    Sorry for your trouble Packrat, have you tried meditation?



  • #103
    Packrat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Packrat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120691674#Comment_120691674

    Thank you very much but your concern is misplaced.

    No trouble at all here, I'm quite happy in general.

    Are you another one? - if not, why did you feel the need to reply?

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • #104
    CreadanLady
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120691582#Comment_120691582

    It is nothing to do with that.

    It is about young tractor and machinery operators who are foolhardy (not always but more often than not) who are inexperienced and lack the maturity and experience to operate powerful heavy machinery.

    The MFV Creadan Lady is a mussel dredger from Dunmore East.



  • #105
    Packrat
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120693576#Comment_120693576

    For most yes. I also agree that change is needed and have posted to that effect in this thread. If that change isn't soon, a serious multiple fatality will result.

    However there is at least one poster just here for the above, - ie - to have a go at farmers. He/She shoehorns their dislike/jealousy of farmers into every second thread they post on.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • #106
    chooseusername
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    https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/23568505.tractor-driver-sentenced-crash-near-raf-mildenhall/

    Amazing no one killed here.



  • #107
    John_Rambo
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    My wife & daughter (in a buggy) were almost wiped out by a teen tractor driver on his phone two years ago in Mayo on a footpath very close to a town. They ended up in a ditch full of nettles with the buggy upended & the panicked corrective action of the driver almost tipped his load on top of them. She could see him coming & was roaring at him but he couldn't hear her. We're really really cautious now when we holiday at home now.



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