Expensive equipment, so not a lot with them here I'd imagine.

Now available under 1000 euros theses days.

Once again the PTB making up their own rules. If you apply for firearm on FCA1 form and tick the SIGHTS box then your cert should show SE, for sights electronic, and 1 cert covers firearm and sights, all covered by 1 payment of €80.

This is another attempt to try to extort more money and make it not worth your while.

Once again, going the court route is the only way to sort this out, or you can let this become the norm and screw everyone

Anyone have an email address for the Garda Firearms policy guys?

I might just get it in writing from them what the actual process is for a thermal sight so I can take that back to my FO when I'm renewing!

It does seem odd that a box that was always there as far as I can remember now means applying for authorization for NV/Thermal.

I have S + SE on my licence, applied on a FCA2 form to register a new day night sight purchased from an Irish dealer and have been told that I have to reapply on FCA1 and pay another 80 Euro if accepted. This cannot be right, has anyone else had, or is having, this experience?

So, my deduction from your information is, a separate licence is needed for a dedicated NV/Thermal scope, dedicated meaning for a particular firearm only. I have read as much as I can find in legislation on Nv/Thermal, and some of it is hard to comprehend, but has the legislation actually been changed to state that an Nv/Thermal scope is now a restricted firearm or device that requires a separate licence?

Thank you for replying to my query.

Dedicated, meaning it's not an add-on/clip-on accessory to a scope.

So, something that you could use as a spotter, but then clip it on to your scope... That is an add-on and as far as I know (and could be wrong here) these add-ons only need Authorisation from the Sup.

But a dedicated NV/Thermal scope, (which you would fit and zero on a rifle) like Pulsar c50, ATN 4K, these are dedicated firearm mountable scopes.

Once you have a stand alone licence for there use, you can use them on any rifle, and on the FCA1 for the rifle license you can tick the Sights option!

It was a bit confusing at the start, because I was thinking my rifle would then be restricted, but the rifle(s) stay the same, you are now licensing a separate "restricted firearm" which can be fixed to a non restricted or restricted firearm!!

All this for basically a digital camera

SE is (as far as I know) Autherization to use an add-on. Which is granted after you send a letter in to your FAO and is approved by the Sup. So, I'd imagine it is specific to the unit you specified.

In saying that the license for the dedicated scopes have a serial number of the unit,whereas the add-on autherization is only a note on the Pulse system (again, as far as I understand).

Same goes for Mods, there's no serial number, so they aren't specific and once you have the S on the license you can use it on that specific rifle

Same goes for Mods, there's no serial number, so they aren't specific and once you have the S on the license you can use it on that specific rifle.

On that bold bit, that's changed or is now being enforced more.I imported a silencer last year from Denmark and the DOJ wanted a serial number for the import permit.on questioning this,I was sent the relevant legislation chapter and verse on this.

In short; as silencers are classified as firearms in their own right, they must also be serialised or have some sort of identifying markings on them. This can be from the manufacturer or added by a GD at import into Ireland.

I'll ASSume that this also applies now to any that are in the native pool of cans out there already. However,as there is no place to add this to the application form of your gun details or apparently on the PULSE system,I'll ASSume again that it is another piece of legislation that leaves us in limbo as to what to do with these details as the silencer ID info will be different from the guns ID info. It would make more sense if the serial of the silencer and firearm matched, but as it stands if your gun lic has the S it can use multiples of different serialised silencers in the same calibre?

Maybe someone else here can make more sense of this legislation?

Is that Serial number on your licence(s) / pulse or recorded anywhere with AGS to record your ownership + / autherization to use that specific Mod?

"I think we could all alleviate this problem by simply ticking the boxes for everything in the future on any new reapplications.IE silencers and NV"

Only problem with this is that you need a separate restricted licence for your NV.

Then, assuming that you are refused for NV( as has happened in my area on every application that has been made so far in my District), you then have to declare that you were refused a licence when you subsequently apply for any other licences.

This may or may not be an issue, depending on your local FO/Super.

I inherited a rifle and silecner recently and when applying for it there was a new section in FCA1 asking about attachments, namely silencers or NV/Thermal and a box for a serial number for said attachment.

Only problem with this is that you need a separate restricted licence for your NV.

True,but whats stops you from applying for one?Doesnt mean you have to have one straight away and collect from the dealers like your gun. Nor does it mean you have to go and lock it up in a safe and upgrade your alarms etc as if it was a restricted gun.It's more correctly an authorisation issued by the CS.

Then, assuming that you are refused for NV( as has happened in my area on every application that has been made so far in my District),

Ohhhh!!!!… BLANKET BAN by your CS of "restricted firearms" in his district!… Get a few of your fellow refused together and hightail it to the most litigious solicitor you can find,and instruct him to contact FUNI. We have a very good legal counsel who would enjoy sinking his fangs into this.

you then have to declare that you were refused a licence when you subsequently apply for any other licences.

SO??? I have been "refused licenses" over a half dozen times since 2008 and had the same revoked as well…NOT for any wrongdoing on my part or law-breaking.But because of AGS/DOJ smart ideas that backfired on them nationally in the period 2008/16 in district and high courts. I'm quite proud of this fact and enjoy filling in that point on all my license applications.AGS will know damn well if you are some local criminal or other ner do well who was refused or revoked for blaggarding,or whether your refusal was because of the Supers/Chiefs policy[or orders from on high] not to issue!" That is the last thing I would be concerned about in this situation.

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Well done!!!You must be the first person in the history of mankind who had to surrender an optical device that is liscensed as a "firearm" on the entire planet! Now the next thing is to get it back to you where it will be of more use. Seeing that you had permission for it like many hundereds of others here for X number of years.3 in your case,I' d simply re apply and point out you had one for 3 years eith no issues,why would you be refused a liscense now Cheif Super?

Just got a reply to my Thermal scope application FCA1.......approved 👍

So all above board now

Pv

HI

I do a bit of vermin control for a local syndicate so got them to write me a letter to accompany my application

Application doesn't specify what rifle I'd be using it on but I use it on 3 rifles ( .243, 17hmr & .22 air rifle) via an innomount QR return to zero mount.

CCost of the new licence is cheap peace of mind if stopped at night by gardai

pv

Recently got mine, didnt need to give signed forms or anything, just said I have X land to shoot that isnt viable to use a lamp on that is why I am applying for this NV scope. 1month later and restricted license arrived, no calls or interviews asked for.