Tesla Talk

Big surge in the TSLA share in the last while too. So glad I dumped all my other shares in other companies (at a loss at the time) and went all in. Stress of daily looking all gone, I know I am doing the right thing and not worried about daily ups or downs. Very likely huge gains if given time.

Tesla didn't back CCS2 in Europe, it was mandated as the connector type here a few years ago by the EU regulators.

That mandated the charge points at stations needed CCS2.0 at a minimum, hence why new Leafs still have Chademo and Zoe's up until recently were only able to charge on AC. Noticed a few Nissan dealers Chademo going (presumably due to old age) and not being replaced

Unless there was another mandate for cars that I'm not aware of? Not having a go, it's highly possible

Logic would suggest. Logic would suggest that there will be interoperability between the standards as well if it ever did happen.

One way or another this is a step backwards for EV adoption in north america

My understanding is that the NACS can charge at up to 1MW while CCS2.0 is limited to 350kW so there is one argument possibly to be made in the future. Although I'd be very surprised if the next gen CCS isn't backwards compatible with 2.0 when the time arises

Each to their own - but can you appreciate that these phrases have literally nothing to do with investing everything into an individual stock, and one which has such a high beta:

”big surge”

”dumped all my other shares”

”dumped them at a loss”

”went all in”

“I know I’m doing the right thing”

”not worried about ups and downs”

”very likely huge gains”.

I’m really not trying to be nasty here - i do analyst valuations for large cap (and very boring!) dividend paying companies for a living. Tesla doesn’t fit our model obviously, but popular stocks always get modelled to try to understand retail investing behaviour - and as a result we all have an opinion.

heres a reasonably meaningless example, as it’s in the past, but since the May 2020 covid bottom of the market until the end of Q1 this year, bank of Ireland shares have outperformed Tesla, and they have a dividend too.

I almost only invest in dividend paying equities. In the last week I increased my holdings of one that curently pays 12.7%. Even with something that enticing I stay diversified. 'All in' isn't in my vocabulary.

Apart from Musk himself being of the opinion that Tesla as a company is worth nothing without FSD, it's a house of cards dependent on the continued wellbeing of a single person. If he were to have a Bruce Lee moment, that 'Tesla are worth nothing' opinion would likely pan out.

Nope, I'd rather be all-out and doing something else.

Just got quoted €960 for a tow hook on a M3 only capable of carrying bikes, anybody get anything better?

The Washington Post, who discovered Watergate. How a bastion of journalism has fallen like that is sad. That article is of the poorest of standards, did you read it?

I'm on holidays, have wine taken and don't want to waste much time on this but some very simple figures. 17 fatalities with cars that had AP enabled since 2019, let's be generous and say there were 10 last year alone. There are about 2 point something million Teslas on the road in the USA and well over 200 million cars / vehicles, so say about 1% of vehicles over there is a Tesla. It also doesn't state how many Tesla fatalities there were with AP not enabled, let's guess 50%

And there are about 40k road traffic fatalities over there. So if Teslas did average annual mileage (again being very generous, they do a lot more than average), then you would expect Teslas to be involved in 1% of 40k fatalities, so 400. Not 10. Or 20.

As you can see, far safer than average (some of the calculations and assumptions in here are simplified and don't take all situatios into account - but you get the idea )

The amount originally invested was small, but I started buying into BTC in early 2016 when 1 BTC was about €370. I quickly noticed the price seemed to be rising whereas my bank account was costing me, so I bought some more, as that seemed more fun. Now I'm up 1,580%.

It was a small investment, I could afford to lose it but it wasn't my only investment, though on paper, it easily is my best performer.

Of course because at the time both would have been regarded as speculative without a track record. Hindsight always makes us wiser .

Earlier poster who mentioned a killing if you had purchased at USD120 at Christmas seemed silent about USD309 in Sept....we can all chose data points to support a particular view . BTW I do have some Tesla stock (have been up and down) and am happy to hold.. Recent developments with opening up to both GM and Ford are all very positive for the stock (additional Revenues but also accelerating higher adaptation of EV's and playing to Tesla dominant market position on both)

Your comparison of the number of fatalities of Autopilot against the national average is unfair: The national average covers accidents on all road types. Divided highways, like freeways, are much safer for driving than other road types. This is where Autopilot is recommended to be used.

There are a good few of situations where the newer version of Autopilots components fails

• Poor visibility (due to heavy rain, snow, fog, etc.).
• Bright light (due to oncoming headlights, direct sunlight, etc.).
• Damage or obstructions caused by mud, ice, snow, etc.
• Interference or obstruction by object(s) mounted onto the vehicle (such as a bike rack).
• Obstruction caused by applying excessive paint or adhesive products (such as wraps, stickers, rubber coating, etc.) onto the vehicle.
• Traffic signs that do not conform to standard recognizable formats, such as digital or temporary speed signs.
• Narrow or winding roads.
• A damaged or misaligned body panel.
• Use of gray or aftermarket glass.
• Interference from other equipment that generates ultrasonic waves.
• Extremely hot or cold temperatures.

The problem is, a good few of these could have been mitigated if Tesla left the radar modules in place on the vehicles. They should never have been removed in the first place, especially when it looks like there is a large uptick in the number of accidents since. Thankfully, it looks like they might be bringing them back again.

I think it should be said that autopilot is a driver aid, not a replacement for the driver.

Fsd sounds like it's a driver replacement buy it's another driver aid. It's been missold for the last several years but that's another story.

It may sooner or later live up to its name but the driver should still be there ready to take over. If they weren't, then it's their fault .

No, They're supposed to be bringing back 'HD' radar, whatever that means.

Is there a Tesla roaster thread?

didn't realise but was available to place an order, I also could be late to the party as I only regularly check the Y & delivery threads :)

https://www.tesla.com/en_IE/roadster/reserve#payment