Brexit - Creeping in. Are we going to be Gaslit like the Brits?

I suppose it depends on what you follow /watch/ read online. I haven't seen a single word or article that suggest Irexit is a thing, what should I be watching?

Years ago the anti-Irish/British nationalist comments on the Indo, youtube, etc turned to be in favour of "Irish sovereignty/anti-EU".

Clearly following orders

- they actually are anti-Irish, anti-Irish freedom, pro-partition, sectarian and racist

- some genuinely, like a lot of British people, do not realise the hypocrisy of being British, occupying Ireland and also having a reputation for being despised by Irish people, but they are not exsctly rational

- Majority of these tweets are cheap, repetitive, sock puppets, AI generated twitter accounts or actually by foreigners from unemployed towns in England

You have seen more hashtags because someone keeps using hashtags for no reason

What attitude wouid you expect to get in a forum called 'Ireland First for Irish People'?

Is Twitter your only source of news and current affairs?

What does Ireland's housing crisis have to do with the EU?

The whole 'refugees/EU' thing is too nuanced to dismiss in a sentence, but has leaving the EU solved the UK's 'refugee problem'?

Is a twitter hashtag a reliable poll?

That is a group of about 40 people with multiple accounts each - could probably name half of them if I had to. Tiny group of people providing support to each other (until they fall out, which always happens).

They aren't going to make political headway

I haven't heard or read anything about it OP. Where are you seeing it? It's not a thing anyway.

In fairness, one of the largest groups claiming international protection are Georgians who have visa-free entry into the EU. We have also named and shamed by Germany in previous years for not taking enough Syrian refugees.

There you go - anyone who thinks it's an open & shut case is living in a cloud.

There has always been a healthy degree of Euro skepticism here, as evidenced in some of the referendums. Funnily as you went north wasn't it more pronounced as in Donegal etc

For a good period, it seemed we were in favour of the EU, as long as we were net beneficiaries. Getting more in EU funds than contributing back.

That's been eroded now and there are most certainly advantages and disadvantages to membership. But I suspect there is little appetite to stir up too much debate in case the public at large start taking notice and an interest.

LOL, are you not contradicting yourself there :)

You allow that there are some disadvantages but then state categorically that 'there's no cogent argument for it whatsoever'. Yes, OK...

The Unionists are no friend of a united Ireland and it's time to stop pretending that they will ever be or could ever be.

And so, reunification is a majority decision, plain and simple. And of course EU membership also enjoys strong support in the six counties, so it is hardly likely that it will need to be compromised to achieve a saleable deal on unity.

On the contrary, it will be a whacking great attraction to most northern voters.

Can we have some links to 'ordinary people' having reservations? Are you suggesting that I am one of the 'great and good'? What qualifies me for that?

I am quite happy for you to discuss the subject, but it needs some coherent and at least half reasonable points to argue.

Those were no "credible" reasons...

On the first (immigration, border control), I expect that if the politicians don't really wish to control immigration leaving the EU would not help. It hasn't "helped" the UK. Non EU immigration to Ireland is entirely under the govt.'s control (added edit: with admitted exception of extraordinary circumstances of invasion of Ukraine) and if desired even the EU immigration could probably be monitored more if govt. created a national ID system like most other countries in Europe have.

The second is even dodgier. On improving relationship with the UK, the relationship we have were we outside the EU is going to revert to what it was pre EU, a minor body captured by and facing a giant planet, or if you want to be rude an economic and political vassal. It was not a healthy relationship then, repeating the same thing again and expecting it to turn out differently is stupid.

Even now within the EU there is a "pull" on us exerted by the UK that constrains decisions regarding EU integration now they have left, the issues over the border and NI protocol, the fact we can't ever join Schengen, the fact that we can't (or won't?) take part in some developing legal harmonisation efforts in the EU (like European Prosecutor's Office) I am guessing, because of our "Common Law" heritage and links to the UK that would be damaged.

Blue passports might be more sartorially handy. I don't often wear purple so it would make a better look in my pocket square when travelling.

I'm reluctant to post in such a nonsense thread but:

• The EU has consistently had extremely high favorability ratings in this country - some of the highest in the EU
• Brexit has been a disaster for the UK with no benefits whatsoever. They've driven an economic and social wedge between themselves and their neighbours with no sign of any trade deals with the likes of the USA. Even by the metrics of what it was really about - reducing migration, it's been an utter failure. Migration has only grown with huge numbers of non-EU migrants more than replacing lower EU migration. I'm sure those people who voted to "take back control" weren't voting to simply replace EU migrants with non-EU migrants but that's exactly what they've gotten.
• The Irexit/NP crowd are a bunch of barely disguised racists, xenophobes and facists who have been trying to import US-style culture war politics to this country. If they actually managed to run candidates who didn't come across like sex-pests and weirdos they might actually be dangerous.

So no. It's not a thing. Stop trying to even pretend it's a thing.

We are near full employment but with high inflation people are too busy trying to make ends meet to be getting into bed with crackpots.

But just yesterday I see Tara mines is shutting due to the cost of doing business here, more of that and the already seething resentment could lead to trouble.

Well you asked the question - did you not expect people to respond?

For clarity, I'm generally in favour of our membership of the EU and have voted accordingly in any associated referendums in last 20-30 years.

But I'm not obtuse or thick headed enough to see that there aren't some downsides and that things have shifted a bit too since Brexit.

Any who thinks all in hunky dory in the garden is deluding themselves. Despite our love/hate relationship with our near neighbours, we do share a lot in common with them in all manner of ways. If sufficient UK voters were minded to vote to leave the EU, I have little doubt but that there would be a healthy enough vote here too for same.

I always wondered who buys the Daily Express you'd see on the newsagent racks in Ireland. Only once did I see someone reading it and it turned out they were British living in Ireland and from what I could hear from their attempts to strike up conversation they were very much blaming the EU for whatever ache they were feeling that day.

Britain is stuck marching forward to the past, there's no glorious past for us to be nostalgic about.