Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Again this is just unrealistic idealism as I said previously.

Things just don't work like this in the real world - there choices and decisions have to be made, priorities set, compromises agreed and all subject to other just-as-valid-in-their-own-ways competing demands for the same limited resources (money, manpower, time!)

But also, WHY should we do this beyond some nebulous idea of humanitarianism? - WHY should we put others needs ahead of our own? WHY should we accept resources being poured into meeting those needs when our own go unfulfilled (and where we were told for years/decades that there was no quick fix), WHY should we see our towns and communities jammed transformed and massively overcrowded to support others? WHY should we accept all this? What about OUR needs?!

What benefit is there in this for Ireland or its people, because - make no mistake - if they are expected to not just go along with it but do without themselves, or live with the consequences of an enforced resettlement plan, there has to be at least some benefits! You may not like that, but just as with the above part of this post, the real world is not a utopian fantasy of unlimited resources and charity!

What you are proposing just isn't practical, realistic or even desirable! I fear that you are living in a dream, but as with all dreams, you eventually have to wake up and return to the real world.

Yes I would . Be surprised . Because those rights were put to the country and won with a large majority .

And it would be more than those rights being given up voting farright .

Equality, disability rights , those lads don't care about any of that .

Make no mistake , anyone who votes for these scheisters and expects they will look after the poor homeless guy with cancer , or the elderly woman needing her home adjusted for disability, are just poor deluded individuals .

Look at the fool Farage has made of the people in the UK.

This really/ultimately has NOTHING to do with a "far right" GG, it's to do with the need to properly plan, control, and manage our immigration process and the supports and resources needed to do so.

Right now and for the last year in particular, the Government have blatantly failed to do this, and THAT is why there are people sleeping on the streets, increasingly unhappy and restless citizens, and critical services at or past breaking point.

It's our left-leaning moderate coalition Government that is at fault for this - not a convenient/lazy boogeyman "far right" brigade. It's the same FF, FG and other TDs that are responsible for this mess, and who are stoking the resistance and protests against the current approach they are taking.

If you want to complain about the road we're going down, I suggest starting there! Just as the rest of us are doing.

It's a lot simpler than you think really - effective and efficient border and entry controls that are based on the ability to help, coupled with a rejection/deportation process that is more than "now we're trusting you to go home, alright?" as is the case now.

WE don't have to prepare for anything beyond those 2 things. WE are a small island on the edge of Europe. WE are not obliged to resettle anyone. There's a big World out there with countries far bigger and better setup than we are for them to go to. HERE we can't even solve our own problems, let alone anyone else's!

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Thanks whoring on boards is no metric to run anything by.

What have you to say on the metrics of the several national polls conducted that have found 75-90% of people are not in favour of the government’s current approach?

This isn't going help matters, it will cause more anger, unhappiness and upset when so many here cannot get planning permission for builds or extensions, social housing, rentals or any type of accommodation etc., barely surviving on medium to low wages or social welfare payments

We are a small Island nation who have taken in and done a lot more, this government really needs a f#cking kick up the ar$e and damn listen to the people

I 100% agree with that and definitely won't be voting for any faragian individuals, I'm certain though that the population is too small to ever support any kind of political party of that ilk here to any position of real relevance any time soon.

But that leaves me with no real way of influencing political discourse with regards to my views on migration. Spoiling my my ballot, hardly an ideal option.

That's a standard occurence. You are now actively looking to find every little minor thing that has been happening in Ireland for decades to blame on refugees.

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But most are too scared of sinn fein and a Motley crew of sub human right wingers isn't going to impress anyone.

Who is your choice for the next election.

So you agree that majority public opinion is against the current approach?

And I have no idea who I’ll be voting for currently, each is more false, disingenuous and spineless than the next

I believe the plan is they can be used as an ongoing form of temporary accommodation for refugees and asylum seekers, as well as Ukrainian people. But they are not really intended to be lived in - they are little more than glorified mobile homes or cabins and not suitable for a family to stay in long term.

But domestic homelessness cannot scarcely be down to immigration or refugees. We had thousands of homeless people throughout the early to mid 2010s when net immigration was zero and refugee numbers were tiny (remember all those TV reports back then about homeless families having to be accommodated in hotels).

Yep it's the big question for me alright. We are only dealing with a trickle at the moment and obviously the Ukraine exodus skews the big picture somewhat. I don't know how the EU are going to plan for it. I feel it could result in the EU breaking up as countries decide to go it alone. Obviously there is no chance of reversing climate change so people in the most impacted countries will be desperate to get into Europe and more and more will come illegally as food/water/energy resource issues worsen. The countries on the Med in southern Europe are on the front lines and I think they will allow pass-throughs if it suits them.