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Christy Dignam RIP

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    This is the Christy I remember, the shirt swinging open, bare feet and the crowd in the palm of his hand. I first saw Aslan at the DIT Fresher's Ball in (I think) 1995 and saw them a few times after that but sadly not recently. Always a fantastic gig. I normally couldn't give a fig about 'celebs' passing away but this one I'm finding very sad indeed. RIP Christy. There will be some party in Finglas this week to send him off.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,381 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Sad news, seemed to be such a lovely man who put his heart and soul into his music.

    Gone far too soon.

    May his gentle soul rest in eternal peace.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    A nice mix of his performances over the years here: https://www.thejournal.ie/christy-dignam-aslan-performances-6092325-Jun2023/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,702 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    I can remember seeing "Loving me Lately" on Saturday Beatbox (?) on rte television, and immediately noticed this lads voice singing " i walk with this fear alone"... such power and emotion...

    Then "This Is" was around, and "Crazy World" ..... I was a big fan since then, and even when Dignam&Goff were going.

    I was lucky enough to see them a few times (not enough) over the years, and the last time was on a beach in Lismore , Co Waterford.

    We were delighted

    to meet the man himself and get a pic with him and my two kids.

    Aslan's Live in Vicar St cd was ALWAYS on in our car when we travelled around on day trips, as the 4 of us sang along and mimicked Christys actions...

    My two lads still listen (on spotify now though) to their songs. Surely an indication of how great their songs are and will be.


    Rest easy Christy, a true Irish music legend. RiP.

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    Poor man suffered a lot , anytime I recall him as a guest on shows this past twenty years, the discussion was more about what was ailing him than anything about his music career



  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭DAngelo Bailey


    The poor man went through an awful lot of trauma in his life and came out the other side. He truly sang from the soul. RIP Christy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Was only thinking this yesterday evening, but I put it around 1993 (but not absolutely certain) as that's when I went to my first DIT ball and a classmate, when Christy was reaching out to the crowd, grabbed him by the hand and pulled him down off the stage.

    When in college I used to work part time near Palmerstown and they played there regularly in the Silver Granite I think, saw them a fair few times on a weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,269 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    A genuine talent and an absolute gentleman to go with it.

    When he was first diagnosed he wasn't up to doing the big Aslan gigs but he took on a few small nights with just himself and Joe Jewell backing him on guitar to keep the bills paid. The president of a sports club I help out behind bar in got wind of it and managed to book him for a night. We kept the bar closed during the performance, only re-opening for an intermission halfway through their set so the members refresh their glasses while Christy took a breather. He gave a mesmerising performance, full of anecdotes and stories between their hits, a few of their lesser known songs and a couple of traditional covers (Green Fields of France was one of the hightlights)

    We learned later that he was so appreciative of our efforts to accommodate his illness and the respect shown to the performers by closing the bar that he'd told quite a few other artists and we've gone from having the occasional cover act to managing to book some of the biggest names on the Irish music scene off the back of that praise over the past few years. They played for us again back in 2019 and the tickets were sold out in minutes.

    A surprising anecdote he told on one of those nights: despite probably being almost better known as a drug addict than a performer he was never a drinker of alcohol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Huge talent and by all accounts an absolute gent. I've heard so many stories about how generous he has always been with his time too - from random fans right up to up-and-coming bands. A huge loss to the country. I think a statue or something of the sort would be appropriate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Remember one of the shows I saw them and just as 'Loving Me Lately' was starting someone fell in the front row and Christy stopped the song to make sure the fan was OK before restarting

    Shows what kind of gent he was



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    I remember the first time I saw Aslan and Christy play and the craic my old friend and me had. We all told her to get her ticket because they would be like gold dust. Of course true to form she left it to the last minute and they were gone. She managed to get in to the gig in the end and the experience was mentioned by us for many years after. Christy in a white shirt, bare feet, brown as a berry and standing on a table. Full of the music and so were we.

    Rest in Peace Christy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭DAngelo Bailey


    Yeah he went from being horrifically abused as a child to a chronic drug addict and into a hugely successful singer. So yeah he came out the other side and I dare say if you had suffered what he had suffered you'd do the odd bit of complaining too.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    They might have played it more than once, I only did my Junior Cert in 1993 so I wasn't at that one!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭cnoc


    Does anyone remember Christy performing in Cruises Street in Limerick? I do not know what year it was.

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  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    Sad news about Christy. A gent by all accounts. Always loved This Is. Earlier in the day I was sat in an oncologist's office with my Dad. We got good news about my Dad's treatment. The news of Christy's passing was sobering given where we'd just walked out of an hour previously.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭PGE1970




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭Tork


    I wouldn't consider myself to be an Aslan fan but there was something about their live shows which gripped me in the way their records never did. I first saw them play live in the early 00s when I tagged along with some friends to the local hotel. I wasn't expecting much but how wrong I was. They were feckin' brilliant live and like everyone else in that room, I was singing along (badly) to the hits by the end. There's a good reason why so many people in Ireland went "Ah no..." when they heard that he had died.

    As an aside, I didn't think much of Dave Fanning's comments about Christy and Aslan on Claire Byrne's radio show earlier. It wasn't the time nor the place to criticise him and his band.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    In a way, I'm selfishly grateful that Aslan didn't make it big.

    If they went to superstardom like had been projected in the 80s before Christy's problems, we might not have had the same accessibility to them in the years that followed, and not to mention these anecdotes about Christy. Someone in every part of the country has a story and every time it's with a wide smile. Aslan going global could have potentially robbed people of that (through nobody's fault, it should be pointed out).

    Obviously the lads and Christy deserved better, but he was Dublin, he was Ireland, and he was ours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,549 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I didn't hear what Dave Fanning said, but there's a time and a place for criticism, and this isn't it.

    Many of us remember Aslan when they were rising stars, but Christy was always honest about where it went wrong. It takes a lot of courage and self-awareness to acknowledge your own foibles.



  • Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Very sad, 63 is still a young age. RIP Christy.

    I saw Aslan live twice back in the 90s, great gigs that I still remember well. I consider myself very lucky that in my time I have seen some great Irish bands live before they got famous - The Blades, Aslan, The Script, and U2 - though the first time I saw U2 was 1985 in Croke Park and they had already made it internationally.

    Condolences to Christy's family, friends and band members.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    His life story would make a great film biopic

    A truly raw unique voice and decent honest skin

    RIP Christy whose music will live on and on in this crazy world



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,993 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Not that I want to send anyone to this trash website but what he said is outlined at https://extra.ie/2023/06/14/entertainment/dave-fanning-aslan-christy-dignam

    I wounder does Dave Fanning consider himself as having 'made it'. He'd be nothing without his friendship with Bono and U2.

    I wasn't a huge Aslan fan but saw them a few times and every gig was brilliant. They had a hardcore group of fans who seemed to follow them everywhere. I had friends who would travel all over the country to watch them. At one gig I was working backstage and Christy was there and he was very polite and quiet with no airs and graces and was chatting away before he went on stage.

    There's one story he told (I think on the Late Late Show) that summed up some of the sh1te he had to deal with. He was in a Taxi heading to RTE I think and the taxi driver mentioned that Christy Dignam was on the Late Late Show that night and then launched into a tirade against Dignam saying they grew up together and were best friends when younger and now Dignam was this and that and too big for his boots, etc etc - As Christy said when he told the story, he never met the taxi driver in his life ever and the driver hadn't even recognised him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    Dave Fanning was on RTE.. gave an unfairly blunt review of their career, or lack of.

    I think its bad form to be dissing people who have recently died.



  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭the 12 th man


    That Entertainment article link....It Was Dignam and Conor Goff who formed the band when Christy left for the few years not Dignam and Goth😫



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭JKerova1


    Fanning is and was a great DJ. Quite well known even outside of Ireland. I kind of get his point, although it probably wasn't good timing. Louis Walsh once said the Irish music industry had wasted millions on bands like Aslan who thought they were rock stars before they really were. I wouldn't be a fan of Walsh or his music but he probably had a point here. Aslan were a great band but they squandered their own success.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    Success can go eat itself. The man created and performed some of the greatest pop songs of the late 80's/early nineties. Beautiful and iconic era defining music for people who got the vibe from it and loved it. He actually made real art and did it for ordinary people like himself who also dug it. Just because the band wasn't pushing greasy sales numbers akin to some crowd like u2 means absolutely nothing.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    How did the Irish music industry spend millions on Aslan?? Who knows Fanning outside of Ireland but slags of f

    Christy because he was only known in Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Done the 'irish Rock n roll experience' a few years back and the video of 'this is' is included so that must of attracted internationally



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    The late 80s/early 90s was my time for Irish music and you could go to a good gig four nights a week.

    Bands like Something Happens, A House, The Stunning, The F&W, Microdisney/Fatima Mansions, 4 of Us, Fat Lady Sings, An Emotional Fish, The Golden Horde etc all brought out excellent albums.

    Feel No Shame stood up against all of those and songs like This Is, Loving Me Lately and Please Dont Stop were anthems for their years.

    I kind of get what Fanning is saying and I wouldn't disagree that Aslan peaked with Feel No Shame.

    But you could say the same about The Golden Horde and A House. I'd also say that his buddies U2 have barely released a decent tune in almost 20 years.

    But today is not the day for that debate.

    Christy deserves the many fine tributes being afforded to him. His fans loved him. And he had many fans.



  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Photobox


    Your making me feel very nostalgic, saw all those bands too at the same time, every Friday night, we got to see a live band. Cry before dawn and in tua nua as well (not listed) Great times, RIP Christy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    Cry Before Dawn were terrific.

    Also bands like Light A Big Fire, The Power of Dreams, Whipping Boy, Fountainhead, Toasted Heretic, The Sawdoctors and The Sultans of Ping.

    A great time for Irish music.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    What’s changed since then that there’s not really any or many Irish bands now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    It was really bad. It’s one thing to trash his career but he also trivialised his childhood sexual abuse and suggested that he used that as an excuse to become an heroin addict. Disgraceful remarks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭SuperS54


    Christy and Aslan kind of ruined concerts for me. The first concert I ever went to was in Drogheda, no idea who they were at the time but Aslan were the main act. I **** loved it. Christy up front doing his thing, belting out some class vocals and mesmorizing with the hand show! Never enjoyed another concert as much since. RIP Christy, you finally do get to rest in peace.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭JKerova1


    If they had one song that should have been a huge international hit for me it was Where's The Sun. I wouldn't rank Crazy World as one of their best and I don't think they did either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    Just like football, you need recessions to foster musical talent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    I think Fanning was clumsy in how he made his point , Christy was an awful moaner, always something wrong with him ( he was near death allegedly ten years ago) and endless tales of woe , maybe some people sometimes thought he exaggerated a bit ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    That’s very true. Its pure hardship brings out the creativity. You make a very good point.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    I think if Dave Fanning was a young kid now he’d probably be diagnosed as somewhere on the spectrum.

    As far as Daves concerned Christy Dignam was a moderately talented singer songwriter who was inclined to over share (probably the best way of putting it) and Dave wouldn’t know how to dress that up on the radio in a way that wouldn’t offend Christys fans.

    He was equally frank when Gerry Ryan died. And he was a good friend of Gerry’s.

    Dave is the go to person for RTÉ for pop music items because pop music is a science to him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,296 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I think Fanning was right to try to explain why he thinks they didn't make a bigger breakthrough with the music.

    But the other stuff was OTT.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,566 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Was never a fan, but I saw them put on a free gig at the back of the Ilac Centre in 1988. They put on a great show in fairness, even if they made no money out of it.




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    I've always been an admirer of Dave Fanning, so this has really saddened me. Thought he'd be a much more compassionate voice.

    We can hold whatever opinions we want, and I welcome the voicing of opinions that aren't the popular or acceptable ones, once they're well thought out and supported... but there are times when it's just not appropriate to express publicly such views. And when someone is dead two days, it's probably the best example of this. Never mind tedious social media edgelords - it isn't always admirable to "say what many people are thinking". I absolutely understand not wanting to be full of gushing praise when that's not how you feel, but then you decline from commenting. Or if you have to, just focus on the positives - things like "Aslan were super hardworking, Christy was a great singer/interpreter and fought serious personal struggles. If not for those bad times, Aslan could have been even bigger, but they were deeply loved by masses of Irish people".

    Instead, Dave said repeatedly that Christy blew it, and that Aslan meant nothing, they were insignificant (seriously, of all people, I didn't think commercial success would mean that much to Dave). The man not even in the ground yet. After battling cancer for years - his family and friends dealing with profound loss and grief. Dave also took a swipe at RTE - despite having a dream job there (and other temporary jobs) for decades. A press pass that allowed him to interview the greatest musicians ever. All the gigs and records he could want. Opportunities to travel for work. A music lover's absolute paradise.

    On Christy again, shockingly, Dave said he had his suspicions about Christy being sexually abused - at least to the extent that he said he was. And was so dismissive of the relationship between addiction and escape from the pain of trauma. You can think two things about heroin use - yes, on one level anyone is an eejit to go taking that filth. But then you consider individual context: you're traumatised by sexual abuse, you just want to numb the pain, you're living in Finglas which is rife with gear. An auld hit - just to feel better for a while, shur chance it. This makes perfect sense on a human level. And later, Christy fully acknowledged his agency in developing this devastating habit.

    Dave doesn't seem to put heroin addiction in context. But he had an idyllic youth in South Dublin, attending Blackrock College and UCD. Nothing wrong with these, but it's a universe away from Christy's situation. He's in a bubble.

    The backlash is full-on. I don't like Twitter pile-ons but I hope Dave takes another perspective with more empathy, because he was downright tone deaf and insensitive.

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    He looks like such a rock star there. He was handsome - raven hair and killer cheekbones. The smack/methadone destroyed his looks, sadly, but not his voice.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    A terrific tribute to a terrific talent that has meant so much to so many people.

    The music carried me to safety through some very dark times. 'Gotta make it' having a particular poignancy for me.

    His talent has touched so many people's lives. Gone but never forgotten. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam dílis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭weadick


    Great tribute from Bono on Brendan O'Connor this morning.



  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭the 12 th man


    Dave didn't read the room.



  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭spark_tank


    I think the criticism is cheap. Christy had his issues and of course they affected the band. For people to be saying that Aslan should have been bigger or they should have been international, well it's a compliment really. I hear bands on the radio these days and I wonder why they're famous at all. Reminds me of the quote "I would much rather have men ask why I have no statue than why I have one".

    It's time to celebrate and appreciate the success they've had. Christy and Aslan started at the bottom, writing songs in the bedroom like everyone else. Now you can start playing any of their hits in any pub or venue in the country and the crowd will finish them for you. Any young band or song writer out there would surely cut their arms off to achieve such recognition.

    RIP Christy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Fair dues to the people of Finglas, they gave him a great send off.



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