Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

johnny_ultimate · 15-06-2023 6:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120719252#Comment_120719252

I swear some posters in this forum care more about box office reports and projections than studio executives 😂

Sudden Valley · 15-06-2023 8:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120719406#Comment_120719406

I think fans of franchises now feel that if the films dont meet their exact list of requirements then they should crash and burn. So many youtubers seem to be flourish with such attitudes. As to the flash that probably has joined the woke and anti work brigade together in their hatred of the carryon of Ezra Miller.

Agent Coulson · 16-06-2023 12:07pm

Incredible Hulk movie rights have reverted back to Marvel this week.

pixelburp · 16-06-2023 12:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120719283#Comment_120719283

To be fair, that's a franchise that has somewhat disintegrated its goodwill by now though? I'll still bat for Prometheus, but we've had 6 movies with only 2 being widely lauded, one a bit of a "if you squint it's good", with the back three generally derided.

So while I think the choice of director turned my head a little, there won't be the same kind of eyeballs on it like all these blockbusters, attracting this tedious negative energy of late. Threads here have just got a chore to read 'cos of some folk.

Mr Crispy · 16-06-2023 1:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120721858#Comment_120721858

A few years ago I'd have loved an adaptation of one of the better Hulk storylines, but I've a distinct feeling of "that ship has sailed" now.

Drumpot · 16-06-2023 2:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120719697#Comment_120719697

This is exactly it. A major issue with franchises is that if they even remotely try to move away from what fans expect , it’s chaos. The fans will say something on the lines of “we want different stories etc” but they don’t really, they just want the exact narrative they expected to go as expected. It’s why marvel worked so well. Every marvel movie is reasonably predictable and people get copy and paste works, with the added familiarity in most marvel movies.

Eternals made over 400 million in a covid year. Marvel could have a movie called turd v giant douche and it would do a couple of hundred million.

That doesn’t mean they are all bad movies BTW, but there is the same basic ingredients used over and over again with just minor tweaks.

Penn · 16-06-2023 2:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120722114#Comment_120722114

The next Captain America will likely set up what way they'll be going with Hulk. The Leader has already been announced for it, and Ross is in it too which could be a lead-in for Red Hulk.

Thor Ragnarok took so many elements of Planet Hulk, and also means the idea behind World War Hulk doesn't remotely fit now. CA: Brave New World will really tell us what's happening next for Hulk I imagine.

Brief_Lives · 16-06-2023 3:16pm

any idea who will be cast as Hulk? Ruffalo said he's still surprised he's doing it.

""I don’t know! I’m always surprised that I’m still here. I mean, me and Ed Norton joke that the Hulk is like our generation’s Hamlet — we’re all going to get a shot at it. I keep waiting for the next version of it. I mean, I’ll probably do it as long as they’ll have me, if people are interested, and I can bring something that’s interesting to me to it, and interesting to the fans. But I have no idea.""

https://movieweb.com/mark-ruffalo-would-be-a-67-year-old-hulk/

flazio · 16-06-2023 4:41pm

I see everyone is willfully ignoring the events of She-Hulk. 🤐

All I want to know is when the Bill Bixby/Lou Ferringo stuff is coming to Disney+

Full_Circle_81 · 18-06-2023 10:09am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120723241#Comment_120723241

I use to watch the original series back in the day, but have no idea if the show would be any use now. Has anyone here watched it recently?

Full_Circle_81 · 18-06-2023 10:10am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120721972#Comment_120721972

Not to derail a Marvel thread, but "if you squint its good" referring to which Alien movie? :P

pixelburp · 18-06-2023 2:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120723241#Comment_120723241

In my case probably because I never finished it. A very polarising show, and it baffled me that with a series with such a defintive identity in humour, would fail to write an actual sitcom as badly as it did.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120729378#Comment_120729378

Alien 3? Never actually seen the "assembly" cut that's supposedly more what David Fincher had in mind, but I think it's a film that requires watching beyond the flaws. Not least, I think if it hasn't killed off Newt and Hicks off screen so dismissively it might have had a stronger reputation from the get go.

CastorTroy · 18-06-2023 4:48pm

Was watching Legends ahead of Secret Invasion because I remembered seeing comments about fury being a skrull so was trying to see where that was said. But apart from Spider-Man Far From Home it wasn't anywhere else.

Full_Circle_81 · 19-06-2023 12:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120730272#Comment_120730272

Alien 3 was the one I was hoping you are talking about! It's a pity it was Finchers first movie. If it had been his 3rd or 4th even, I think he'd have had more clout to do it the way he wanted it. Still an interesting movie.

And yes, those off-screen deaths were particularly harsh!

silverharp · 19-06-2023 1:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120719252#Comment_120719252

thats a bit churlish, you should be more wondering how thin the content is here, I looked yesterday to find a thread on the new Wes Anderson film Asteroid City , and while I think there was one , its a bit like Google if you have to search back more than 2 tab you're losing.

johnny_ultimate · 19-06-2023 1:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120734214#Comment_120734214

I’ll be the first to acknowledge this is a relatively quiet forum, but not really sure I’d expect a thread for a Wes Anderson film to be particularly busy before it has even been released :)

pixelburp · 19-06-2023 1:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120734214#Comment_120734214

And it was always thus. Blockbusters get more traction and eyeballs than small indie movies and doesn't matter if it's Boards, letterboxd or wherever. Nothing especially new or remarkable that popular trumps art. It's regrettable, but it isn't additive to the forum for blockbuster threads to just be a constant stream of negativity either. Box office projections and "is the MCU dead yet?" ain't gonna relight discussion.

In any case, Boards film forum is "thin" because overall user numbers are down across the site, with niche fora experiencing a more exponential decrease as you go from, say, Current Affairs down to Creative Writing. Film sits somewhere in the middle, still active but obviously quieter.

Foxtrol · 19-06-2023 5:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120722674#Comment_120722674

You somewhat proved your own case with your comment on Eternals. That was Marvel moving slightly away from the formula and it received negative fan response.

Similarly, Thor L&T moved away from the formula by taking comedy beyond what was done before and Quantumania with the comedy and taking Ant-man away from the real world grounding of the first two movies.

All 3 movies had other issues but their common thread is pushing beyond the MCU formula.

The consisten complaint is that the MCU hamstring directors and writers but time and time again when they don't it leads to fan backlash.

pixelburp · 19-06-2023 9:08pm

While the obvious rejoinder to that is Guardians trilogy: a set of movies broadly hands off with James Gunn a proven, imaginative talent before he even worked with the MCU (more than that, borderline anarchic given his work includes Super or Slither).

It helped the guy, with his Troma sensibilities, knew how to work the material and his own instincts into something off-centre from the usual MCU fare, but one that audiences loved. Letting loose only works as an approach if the creative force has a modicum of form in the field; with the best will in the world Chloe Zhao wasn't ever that person. You might as well ask, I dunno, Wes Anderson to direct a tentpole blockbuster - there's just no genetic link.

Penn · 20-06-2023 5:02pm

Jonathan Majors' trial for domestic violence due to go ahead early August.

I'd say Marvel are probably delighted there's a writers strike at the minute. More time to wait for the verdict before deciding whether to recast Kang or not

JP Liz V1 · 25-06-2023 12:59am

Ben Affleck Daredevil rumoured for Deadpool 3

flazio · 27-06-2023 8:57am

Does anyone know if that reboot of the X-Men cartoon is still going ahead?

pjohnson · 27-06-2023 10:18am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120771281#Comment_120771281

The cast are currently working on the second season. Think the first is set fo release this winter.

Loughc · 29-06-2023 11:05pm

Is anyone else watching secret invasion? I’m really enjoying it. The mcu is at its best when it’s at its simplistic.

Penn · 30-06-2023 9:22am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785118#Comment_120785118

It's okay. Verging into being really good at times, particularly when Nick Fury is given the time to sit down and talk to others. His conversations with Sonya, Talos on the train and Rhodey were all terrific and have been the highlights so far.

The show has promise, but also like other MCU shows it has the potential to turn into a needless CGI-fest conclusion. If they can keep it more spy-thriller-can'ttrustanyone for as long as possible, it could be one of the best shows they've done.

pixelburp · 30-06-2023 3:18pm

The Jonathan Majors problem refusing to disappear: this time via a Rolling Stone investigation into Majors' past relationships; accusations Majors still denies through his representation. At some point Disney might want to pull the trigger here.

During this three-month investigation, Rolling Stone spoke with more than 40 people who have known Majors during his time in graduate school, his Hollywood career, and his romantic relationships. Many describe Majors as being a complicated, unpredictable, and sometimes violent man, who can switch from charming to cold in a flash. (All of the sources for this article requested anonymity, citing fear of career repercussions and personal retribution from Majors. Some claim they were prohibited from speaking. “My only response can be that I am silenced by an NDA he had me sign,” says one person who worked with Majors.)

Their stories suggest a pattern of alleged physical, mental, and emotional abuse that dates back a decade to Majors’ time at Yale’s David Geffen School of Drama — where he was involved in physical altercations — and continued to the sets of his movies and TV shows, where production members raised concerns over his treatment of crew.

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/jonathan-majors-abuse-allegations-yale-1234781136/

pixelburp · 30-06-2023 3:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785883#Comment_120785883

I've only seen the first episode but I wasn't impressed; maybe it's cos I found what seemed suspiciously like London doubling up as Moscow constantly distracting lol 😂 but something about the execution didn't gel with me. If you took a shot ever time someone opined Fury had "changed", you'd poison your liver in minutes. Yet at no point did the episode show any difference, just Jackson kinda ambling around the scenes.

Sudden Valley · 30-06-2023 3:20pm

Secret invasion seems a very odd show. The timing of it doesn't help it being set in Russia but also the Americans come out as very unlikeable, being annoyed at being questioned on a terrorist attack with of their agents present.

Also is Emilia Clarke ill ? she looks quite unwell I don't think that is a deliberate character choice.

Drumpot · 30-06-2023 3:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120787733#Comment_120787733

Sounds like creed 3 was the perfect role for him

pixelburp · 30-06-2023 4:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120787744#Comment_120787744

Might have to do with how she had those 2 brain aneurysms? No idea if that'd affect ones appearance but I did also notice now gaunt and unwell she looked.

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