Hundreds Feared Drowned In Migrant Boat Sinking

From my quarter I do blame EU for doing nothing to secure its borders and stop the boats. Of course, if they would have done something, they would have been blamed from those loud yelling quarters, but the upside would have been a lot less people dying trying to enter EU illegally.

The EU visited Tunisia just last week to try and stem the flow from Africa.

EU may give Tunisia more than €1bn in aid to help finances and stem migration | Tunisia | The Guardian

The European Union is considering providing more than €1bn (£850m) in aid for Tunisia to rescue state finances and deal with a migration crisis, the EU Commission president Ursula von der Leyen said on Sunday.

Speaking in Tunisia, Von der Leyen said €900m would be macrofinancial assistance while an immediate €150m would support a reform agenda set by the International Monetary Fund.

She said this could be ready “as soon as the necessary agreement is found”, without elaborating.

As part of the €1bn package, a further €105m will be funnelled into a new partnership with Tunisia to combat people-smuggling, human trafficking and the continuing tragedies at sea.

Mostly women and kids, RIP, but so many dying in boat crossings, very highly dangerous

How many naval vessels available from the EU backed up with Nato ,

Blockaded the coast of Libya and while using drones and gunships to sink every vessel capable of carrying more the 2 or 3 people in ports and harbours ,then go after the NGOs Operating rescue vessels and make them financially liable for every person they pick up,and If that doesn't happen sieze there vessels.

We also need mass returns of migrants back to their home countries

Tragic for sure. Not helped by mixed messages from EU states and NGOs, telling people not to attempt it but offering rescue if they do. I believe I heard our own LE William Butler Yeats is enroute to the Med this very month.

What's slightly puzzling about above tragedy is Greece having 3 days national mourning. That's some cost to their economy, I wonder if it'll be widely observed. Hardly their citizens fault this happened.

So the response to a tragic boat incident is a military blockade of libya? Sinking more ships? Killing more people?

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As I recall the Irish didn't want to get involved in the overthrow of Gaddafi and now they want someone else presumably, to shoot down anything larger than a dingy!

Just like the world stopped over a decade with pause when a Libyan fighter jet claimed asylum in another country, we should also pause and take in why these people are packing on to a boat in such maximum and at such risk to themselves: the answer can only be risk of loss of life, right? Why else would you be so desperate, some users alleging they knew all the risks.

Libya is an incredibly politically unstable place and given the historic nature of places that undergo political turmoil (Bosnia, Cuba and Soviet States plunging into ethnic conflicts, acts of genocide, mass refugee crises, etc) and the very fact that Libya has a history, a modern history of mass murder (with fighter jets and aircraft), it's fair to say regard for human life in Libya is not that good. And if it was mostly women and kids, the ulterior motives usually alleged of mostly-male waves of refugees do not apply.

In fairness it's not really Libyans on these boats other than perhaps running the operations

Going back to earlier than 2008, can't pin that on 2011 NATO intervention:

Sure every country on the face of the earth, especially in Europe, was and is ultimately complicit in that sort of crime. How many are ran by Islamist warlords? Any stats on that?

EU are very clearly to blame since their deterrents are essentially the equivalent of a chocolate teapot.

The European Union is absolutely **** pitifully weak on immigration strategy.

Where does it say that? Of the people rescued it said mostly men as par the course, economic migrants not people fleeing persecution

North Africa/Mid-east is no saint in its relationship with Europe. The many caliphates and the Ottoman empire emerged from these same regions to invade the Mediterranean coast, Spain up to the French border, and in the case of the Ottomans right up to Vienna, completely ruining the Balkans to this day in the process. People from these regions were quite fond of slavery too. So no victim narrative for Mid-east/N.Africans. Every bit the bastards that Europeans were. They've just been less successful at it for the last few centuries.

North Africa probably does deserve management assistance from Europe, and Europe could benefit from North Africa being a secure area with cheap manufacturing, but I doubt they'll be quick to welcome Europeans telling them what to do. Even though it would be better for all.

So option one is to keep the free taxi service and ferries from the med to Europe going and or free flights to everyone who wants one from Africa and elsewhere to Europe,

Other option is to actually get serious about stopping this mass flow of illegal immigrants to Europe and close off the med to traffickers and boats , people complaining about sure look what we did to Africa its only fair they can come to Europe in unlimited numbers and we will give housing to every single one ,but what about the hundreds of billions in aid and resources we here in Europe have pumped into Africa over the last 50 odd years,

At the end of the day there isn't infinite supply of housing,jobs and services for everyone in Europe let alone mass flow of illegal migrants