Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

It could have also been a turning point, a blessing in disguise. The rumour mill was all about them suing the producers, rumours which they had to go and deny. A shrewd PR move would have been to show some self deprecation via acknowledging (even if it wasn't actually genuine) that they absolutely loved the episode and were honored to get the South Park "treatment" as such. Just laugh at themselves just once but they missed an opportunity there in a way.

First of all, it was Meghan's podcast. Harry was not involved. If you read around a bit about the problems at Spotify, it seems they thought they could get all these high profile people (like Kim Kardashian & Meghan) and build an audience. Whereas with Joe Rogan, he had the audience already and it cost them 200m. Archetypes was probably way too 'woke' for an American audience anyway.

Just on their output - you seem to have forgotten that everyone and everything was in lockdown for most of that period.

How was Harry in a bubble of privilege when they had to bumb a lift from Tyler Perry (whom they had never met) and would have been homeless but for him. Some privilege with the rapid British tabloids chasing them around the world.

How is it a privilege to have your every move, personal information plastered all over the front page of a newspaper. How is it privileged to have to tolerate discusting comments about you from the likes of Jeremy Clarkson? Please explain to me where you see the privilege in all of that?

"Simmons, who still runs the Ringer and is also Head of Podcast Innovation and Monetization at Spotify, made the comments on his eponymous podcast.

“The f-cking grifters. That’s the podcast we shoulda launched with them,” he said. “I gotta get drunk one night and tell the story of the Zoom I had with Harry to try and help him with a podcast idea. It’s one of my best stories.”

Yikes! Their reputation in Hollywood must be trashed at this point. I had assumed they'd get another podcast deal like the Obamas got after they left Spotify but I'm not so sure now, if they do get one, I would say it will be much smaller

They would have been homeless but for Perry? Lol.

A Prince with an estimated £30 million fortune? With another couple of million quid from his daddy funding his freedom? Telpis. Surely military man Harry could have organised digs at his expense? Maybe but seeing that he recently wanted the montecito mansion listed as a consul to perhaps save on property tax could be an example of his infamous stinginess, the kind of which cost him Cressida Bonas but which duped Perry. Initially anyway.

Privilege? Yeah, because you and I can sign a $20 million and $100 million deal with Spotify and Netflix respectively just like that. These two are done. Netflix cutting ties will follow.

Ah would you stop. Harry grew up, and still remains, about as privileged as it gets. Meghan too was hardly raised in poverty. although obviously not royalty level privilege, still decent enough for the US - privately educated, trips to Europe etc. And sure wasnt she already a millionaire from her job on suits? They were never going to be homeless, that's complete nonsense.

This is yet another opportunity squandered. The fact is, they had it all in the royal family. All they had to do was accept the fact that they weren't at the top of the royal hierarchy and they could have had their entire life paid for at the cost of a few boring engagements a year. They had none of the pressure that being the heir entails. This wasn't good enough for them and now they've pissed away whatever good will they had, and many of their opportunities to make their own money due to their seeming unwillingness to actually put in any effort or hard work. I predict one or both will come crawling back to the rf in the near future looking for handouts and status.

Ah, so people should stop doing unpleasant things to others, only when they express their unhappiness because of it (when it is already done)! Right. Most people are sensitive enough not to do it to others beforehand. Especially when following: "don't do to others, what you find disturbing".

It’s called “popularity” and I think it’s the missing link between what those people offer and what Harry & Meaghan claim they offer.

Most b-list celebrities have to “reinvent” themselves over time to stay “relevant” - it’s generally accepted by the public as long as they don’t rattle on too much about it and just produce an interesting product in the end- which those people you mentioned apparently did.

A-listers have an additional often undefinable quality that doesn’t need reinvention - they’re just good because the exist as they are- Morgan Freeman, Tom Hanks, The Obamas, Robert DeNiro- they could recite the Ballyconneely phone directory and it would go to no 1 on Spotify, just because of the aura they have in the public minds- they don’t tire.

Harry & Meaghan don’t have a sense of humour- they’re trying to hard to be relevant- their constant reinvention is funny to watch because it’s so obvious what they’re “trying” to do and failing miserably.

As valoren said above, had H&M laughed at themselves over the South Park episode, they just might have appeared more human and more likeable. For me they’re the grown up version of Greta Thunberg- life’s just too short to be so serious all of the time.

Vogue isn’t coming from a place of ridicule- I’ve no idea what she does on Spotify and no interest in finding out either- if she’s no 1 in Ireland right now, I say, good for her. I’ve also no interest in watching Emerdale or Eastenders or Fairly Sh1tty but apparently enough people do which keeps these shows in production- good for them I say.

The entertainment and interest value of H&M is not their work product, it’s the pathetic “trying too hard” approach to make themselves relevant - that’s what keeps people talking, or more accurately, laughing. And South Park just nailed that so well.

No one cares about their stance on saving the rainforests or whatever their pet project is this week - it’s the soap opera of their real lives that keeps them on the front pages - there’s popular good and popular bad- they’re “popular” for all the wrong reasons.

I wonder what they'd do if the press lost all interest in them? No invasion of privacy to complain about and no publicity ...

I think they’re under the misconception that they can control the press narrative written about them.

There’s no doubting the press has behaved appallingly in the past, especially towards Harry but also Meaghan- the racist undertones of some articles can’t be defended under any circumstance or any guise- they were just plain wrong.

But since leaving the RF duties, they did have a choice - keep a low profile and the articles would decease and those that would appear would likely be more favourable- but they decided to busy themselves making loads of money being whingers and back stabbers against their own families - they just gave the tabloids exactly what they needed- the fact they can’t see this though is the strangest thing of all-they’re so blind as to how their “cause” has likely genuinely hurt people once close to them- the “were right everyone else is wrong” approach hasn’t helped either.

I very much doubt I am.

Either way you have missed the point again. I'm not constantly posting about them whilst in the same breath saying they are not popular.

"We're going to be very diligent in how we invest in future content deals," he added. "And the ones that aren't performing, obviously, we won't renew."

"But crisis communications guru Mark Borkowski says the show may not have been compelling enough when Spotify reviewed the numbers. It's always about the content.... clearly there hasn't been a big enough audience for it," he says. "If you can't deliver your fee, no one's going to pay it."

"Polling for Newsweek earlier this year suggested the couple's popularity in the US suffered following the publicity blitz surrounding their Netflix documentary series and the publication of Harry's memoir, Spare. "The more Prince Harry and Meghan say, the less Americans like them," was Newsweek's headline.

It all seems to be going tits up for the dastardly duo.

It seems we're all just missing the point though. 🤷‍♀️

There isn’t one. She was sensible enough to follow the RF practice of, “never complain, never explain”.