EU Biodiversity strategy 2030

Ya hardly need a far reaching, widescale EU law that impacts many different aspects of society, especially rural, to sow more trees in cities.

Like Eamon Ryan, he is more a hindrance then a help to advance issues like supporting farmers to adopt more sustainable farming practices etc. with his lazy broad brush approach to Irish farming ie. "all farmers and livestock are toxic for rural Ireland " 😠 which is obvious nonsense and not supported by the many NGO's etc. that work with many farmers in this area.

I think you missed my point. We don't need an EU law to tell cities to plant trees. That's totally in the remit of the local administration in the same way as they can take them down. The NRL covers a vast array of stuff and adding ammendments for city trees is just bolloxing quite frankly. Our own government declared a cimate emergency a few short years ago yet they can't tell councils to sow trees. In fact, I read yesterday that for the first time in the history f the state we don't have a forestry planting programme. Like, WTF. And on the other side there's countless applications sitting on department desks to manage existing forestry and nothing being done bout it. Yet the narrative is we support forestry. None of this is the fault of the EU

Think we are coming to similar conclusions but from different angles. I full agree that state agencies are wholly negligent and incompetent in this area, which is why I mentioned the need for strong EU law to compile rogue states like Ireland to comply with basic provisions of the likes of the Water Directive which Ireland still hasn't fully implemented despite it being in place for nearly 20 years. This is the reason there has been a long line of cases in this and similar areas concern judgements against Ireland by the ECJ and daily fines(latest one just today concerning over-fishing of certain species in Irish Estuaries). Its the same story in the forestry sector you mentioned, the EU has repeatedly warned Ireland that its forestry policies are not in line with a whole host of Directives concerning water quality, pesticide use, over reliance on non-native moncultures(disease issues) habitat and erosion damage etc. Despite having a so called Green in charge of the sector, the Forestry Department again failed to address most of these concerns in their latest submission to Brussels, which is now obviously holding things up all along the process.

PS: Just reading the other day that the state still hasn't put in place proper and enforced EU regulations for building products coming from quarries. Astonishing stuff given the ongoing Mica disaster around the country that is already set to cost tax payers many billions of Euros!!!😣

His last quote addresses a major issue for modern farmerin systems.

Yes, the plough mainly and the 'icides. But science can be used to focus on those too. It's just that some remedies and alternative ways of working may not be great sellers for industrial ag companies.

Slurry should be split, with the solids going to an AD plant. The residual can be spread. The ratio of bacteria : fungi depends on what's growing in the soil. Yes, we need major weaning from the Haber Bosch nitrogen. All the different components need to work together but we don't have the joined up thinking. Our Multi Species Sward mix calls for 55% perennial ryegrass (PRG). Any modern PRG varieties have been bred to require inorganic nitrogen.

Yes, such systems are available, used more so in NI. I'll check I think they might be grant aided om organic farms here now. The liquid portion can be spread after grazing in the rotation. I think some have screw mechanisms others use a belt. This would also allow more storage

If you look at that scenario, just transporting the solids, not slurry, to an AD plant makes sense. Alternatively the solids could be composted.

Interesting, I hadn't cone across a dry AD plant before, I looked it up and whie acknowledged as possible, it doesn't seem to be under consideredtion for mainstream use according to this SEAI guide.

@Jonnyc135 looks like your concerns with this thread were well founded. A serious bit of rail roading was taking place. Hopefully now it's arrested. Although watching our Irish politicians on RTE when asked about the motion most don't want to appear opposed to it as it's framed that you are opposed to nature. And well politics.

In no time has such power been tried to be wielded in such a short space of time and people are too woke now to question why.

It's the replacement religion.

The replacement for the fire and brimstone and eternal damnation.

I read a good article yesterday on how the EU are going to make a balls of themselves by screwing the rural people

Also, I seen a tweet that there was no money for nature and the funds have to come from CAP

It is a Net Zero by 2050. We can do Net easy..

The trouble is the ravaging between now and 2030, combined with the risk of again being outmanouvered or blinsided on inventory setup in the run up to the pre 2030 negotiations.