Hundreds Feared Drowned In Migrant Boat Sinking

I can't see how we have any duty to them whatsoever.

There's something of 'The White Man's Burden' about that idea.

Irish missionaries often did amazing work, supplied priests, teachers, nurses etc. but my point remains that this was a fundamentally christian initiative and not Irish government policy. African people owe the christian church a debt if anything and not the other way around.

I am puzzled as to what duty you think Irish people are meant to assume now towards massive, fully independent African countries like Nigeria and Kenya today based on this.

Not sure what you mean by 'lately', but in the Polish Sejm this week...

[quote]The government’s majority in parliament along with the far right has passed a resolution opposing an EU plan to relocate migrants and asylum seekers within the bloc. Countries that do not want to take in their share would instead have to pay a financial contribution.

During a debate on the resolution, Jarosław Kaczyński announced that the ruling national-conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party he leads would organise a national referendum to give Poles a say on the EU plan.

However, opposition parties – who did not support the resolution – accused PiS of exploiting the issue to cover up its own failings and to boost its ratings ahead of this year’s elections.[/quote]

An interesting angle. The PiS is undoubtedly a fairly unsavoury lot, but even the opposition knows that this would be a popular move. As you would put it though, the Polish people 'know what's best for them'.

[quote]“The Sejm of the Republic of Poland expresses its strong opposition to the attempt to introduce mechanisms for the forced relocation of illegal economic migrants at the European Union level,” read the resolution.

“We do not agree that the Polish state should bear the social and financial costs of the bad decisions of another European Union member state,” it continued. “The ‘open door’ policy, which was pushed through by Germany, violating the treaties, turned out to be a big mistake.”[/quote]

https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/06/15/polish-ruling-party-passes-resolution-condemning-eu-migrant-relocation-plan-and-calls-for-referendum/

So where that leaves your satisfied aspersion about Poland having figured out on which side it's bread is being buttered, maybe you can say ?

Sensible people they are.

We didn't rob them of their beliefs. No one put a gun to anyone's head and forced them to believe anything although I would be interested in your thoughts about what superior beliefs you believe, they left behind and why they are so poorly served by christianity in comparison.

I note you have decided not to progress your point that contemporary Irish people have some esoteric responsibility to Africans that benefited from the voluntary work of the Irish missions.

They, not we "interfered" insofar as the various international missions put in place proper schools, proper health systems and offered religious outlets. Again, you have offered no suggestion that Africans would have been better off without this.

The Irish people of today have zero moral responsibility to people the Irish missions helped on an altruistic, voluntary basis in a largely successful effort to improve their lives.

In the context of this thread, we are looking at reasons offered for Africans coming to Europe illegally and it strikes me that those who are alive and educated thanks in part to the missions, have the least reason to disrespect our immigration laws or suggest we somehow owe them free residency or any of the benefits of this country on their terms.

Very strange alright .

Ah no , 100 children in the hold ??