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Golf coverage/commentator discussion thread!! Mod note #12

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    They take it directly from the US feed so have little to no control over what we see. As an aside you can't really blame them for showing TW



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 donnyb63


    I was shocked at this!henni absolutely brilliant softly spoken well spoken knowledge former pro and yes easy on the eye doesn't hurt!nick dougherty excellent in studio too.laura Davies and coltart the absolute worst insufferable. Coltarts knowledge through the field awful,called Christian bez a "massive hitter yesterday " he averages 290 off tee!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 donnyb63


    I've a proper hard on for henni lol..she's great well spoken softly spoken knowledge former pro friends with Justin Thomas tiger etc great addition she seems lovely! Coltart and Laura Davies insufferable and don't have a clue about any golfers outside the top20



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    The Sky comms can't seem to get over the fact that the US graphics say "tied" instead of all square. Seriously lads it's been that way for at least two years, get over it, I really don't see the issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Let’s hope nope gets a double eagle



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,442 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Never thought I would say this but I miss Nick Faldo.

    He was super at explaining what a player was trying to do and also explain how golfers might be feeling and his understanding of the position players was in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,205 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Whose better than her on Sky? Nobody.

    She has some good insights, she's not afraid to criticise a decision about the shot to play and that's both before and after the shot. When she criticises it and it works out she admits she got it wrong, you know like a normal person.

    She's a breath of fresh air in my opinion.

    That Scottish idiot is awful. I'm as big of Rory fan as anybody but he came out just a short while ago about Rory that he's 'arguably the best golfer in the world' when he's not even close to Scheffler right now. There's no argument about that right now.

    I like Rich Been but he's all nicey, nicey all the time.

    McGinley has improved but he's much better on the golf channel. It's like Sky have a haves and have nots rule book for commentators.

    Faxon is great on US commentary too, much better than when he's on Sky.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,249 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Rory isn't even close to Sheffler right now!! Not even close! 😉

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,205 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    He's not. That was Scheffler having a bad week, still got to the semi-finals.

    Since January Scottie's results 7, 11, 1, 12, 4,1,4.

    Rory's are 1(Dubai), 32, 29, 2, MC, 3.

    I'm not criticising Rory, I'd have him second right now but there's a big gap between Scheffler and everybody else. The comment by that stupid Scottish commentator that there's an argument over who is the best in the world right now was just ridiculous.

    You're comment, made after an unimportant match, means nothing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭benny79


    Regards Rory he has been at the top must his career Scheffler is only there last year or so.. Thats why Rory is regarded as the best in the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭JIdontknow


    Do we have 4 days of listening to the words "momentum" and "bouncebackability" to look forward to?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭GolfPar




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    It's fairly mental that we won't see coverage of the 3rd round of a major until the leaders have finished the 7th hole. Augusta would want to get with the times. Guaranteed the horn will blow 10 minutes after the coverage starts too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    This new Sky commentator Ali Whitaker is adding absolutely nothing to the coverage. For the life of me I can't understand why they don't bring in the likes of Jamie Spence or Gary Murphy for the majors. Those lads seem forever destined to only cover events in the likes of Kenya and Czech Republic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,205 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Totally agree and don't forget Boxall. I like Laura Davies, McGinley has improved a lot too. David Howell is quite good when they have him on.

    Whitaker and Coltart are awful.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    I think Coltart is far better as an on-course commentator



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,205 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I don't I've ever seen him do that but in the box he's awful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    Are there actually any Sky golf personnel in LA this weekend for an actual major?

    Andrew Coltart seems to have been dumped into a lone ranger nightshift type role at 3am after 3 hours of US coverage. Even Henni got bumped into commentary earlier



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Salvation Tambourine


    Has Claude Harman III always been on the Sky coverage? I thought he was really interesting last night.

    Henni was mentioned in the post above, she has one of the most relaxing voices in the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    I thought it was odd that they switched to American commentary in the middle of main coverage, first time I can ever remember them doing that during a major.

    I really think Sky have taken their eye off the ball with their coverage, the standard of commentary seems to have deteriorated. Often the depth of the analysis seems to be that it's "not someone's day" etc. Quite often they don't appear to have anyone onsite either, which doesn't help matters.

    I'd hoped we wouldn't ever hear from Claude Harmon again since he's not been on much the last couple of years. Surprised Sky have brought him back after he made a such a tit of himself in that interview a few weeks back. Also, whoever decided to add Henni to the main commentary team should be shot.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭mjsc1970


    Don't want much golf these days, but watched the lare last night. God, how do ye put up with the adds every (it feels like) 5 minutes. It really spoils it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Would love if Nick Dougherty stopped calling Robert MacIntyre ‘Bob’. He doesn’t go by ‘Bob’.

    It’s like they’re trying to create this ‘great craic’ persona for him with the name Bob



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,249 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    I see McGinley is commentating over in the states, think he's a loss for Sky even with his McIlroy grudge. Sky are missing a big name player involved also.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    ‘Xander Show-Flayyyy’

    😩😩😩



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,841 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I like Ali Whitaker, she brings a bit of freshness to it. I have her over Henny all day long.

    Nick Dougherty just annoys the hell out of me. The little smug ****** - according to himself he's been there done that, can play every shot and knows about everything golf. Yet the only way he can make a bob out of golf is by talking s** about it on telly.

    Generally speaking I prefer the older guys from the European Tour. Murray, Boxall and the likes. They have their old guy moments but at least they don't take themselves so very seriously.

    Which brings me to McGinley. Fair play to him he's had nice career with a fair few achievements but will he ever stop letting us know about it? He's as bad a Monty. And his little staccato yak isn't very nice to listen to either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭pauldoo


    Henni is absolutely awful on commentary, find her fine in the studio, sounds like she finds everything hilarious when on commentary



  • Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Pdoghue


    Agree with all this. It's quite staggering that Sky have Henni in the commentary booth. She talks in banalities and provides no insights. Murphy, Spence or Holmes would be far better. And she seems to be paired up with the awful Coltart.


    Think part of the reason for this is that McGinley and now Dougherty are sharing their time between Sky and CBS/golf channel.

    Sky golf commentary really needs a big shake up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭zocklie


    But who though? Sky will stick with tradition and try get someone english who won't go too much against the grain, and I just can't think of any semi retired or retired pro's that fit the bill. Maybe westwood but he's still out and about



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭daithi7


    I think McGinley is a class commentator tbh.

    He's highly informative, obviously does his homework, knows where irons should land or the lines putts should run to maximise their chance of scoring and also relates the back stories of some of the players when they're relevant. Top class!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,205 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Not only that but unlike the rest of them he's not calling every 20 footer a real chance of a birdie for Rory. Then there was that hole where Rory hit a putt that rimmed the hole and the rest of them were saying how unlucky Rory was and he said that Rory was lucky because if it didn't rim the hole he'd have been at least 15 feet away for his next one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,249 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    God I love Iona Stephen

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  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭zocklie


    Anyone else notice how the older commentators on sky have a lot of like, saliva clicks, like theyre checking chewing gum really loudly, and you can hear them breathing through the mic. Have to watch it muted now coz it's actually wrecking my head, not sure if it's my TV but I'm pretty sure it's not



  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Caddy cart


    Think you need a bit a bit of a run or a walk there if that annoys you. Or maybe a good drink!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Loads of players putting it into the water on 12 and Rory hits it on green and 30 feet from hole and McGinley is all that’s a bad shot. No pleasing him



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ Trey Tall Tea


    Paul McGinley is going to be part of the NBC golf team for next week's Hero World Challenge after lead analyst Paul Azinger didn't have his contract extended with the US broadcaster post this year's Ryder Cup.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,205 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I used to hate McGinley on commentary but he's improved a lot. He's not afraid to criticise a shot, whether it's just a bad one or the thinking behind it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    How was McGinley on the US broadcast at the weekend? I didn't catch any of it but I'm intrigued to see how he gets on over there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    I've really liked the Sky Sports team over the past few years tbh. Coltart and Murray doing the core commentary is a winner. Getting rid of Faldo and Montgomerie was a bonus (Faldo was fine in small doses, but Monti was and always will be a complete dose).

    Beem, Riley, McGinely all very good in my opinion. Stand out for me though is Laura Davies.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,205 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I can't listen to Coltart, he's nearly as bad as Mark Roe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭Benicetomonty


    Davies? Really? I mean, each to their own, but she makes more mistakes and premature calls than any other golf commentator Ive ever heard, to the point where Im actually embarrassed for her at times. How she's lasted this long I cannot fathom. Like Monty, I think her record as a player will only buy her so many years in the box before Sky fully come to appreciate how awful she really is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,205 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    She's excellent although of late she's gone a bit too nice. She's got great insight into the shots that should be played especially around the green.



  • Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭IAmTitleist


    Loved Monty when he was on Sky. Would be great if he were to come back!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭callaway92




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Monty was god awful



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Mc Ginley with a genius comment. The greens are softer than in the practice rounds. He must have slept through the rain



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,984 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Is the commentary slightly behind the play on Sky? Beem seems to react to things a few seconds after they appear on screen



  • Registered Users Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Gipo3


    That seems to be always the case with sky PGA tour coverage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    Faldo is best enjoyed in small doses, but I find the rest of the lineup to be top class tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭GolfPar


    McGinley is the same, unless you like someone churning out stat after stat.



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