Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2022 - No PM requests - See Mod note post #1

Just make sure you get a hybrid inverter fitted to ensure you can add a battery in the future. Make sure you don't install a system that only works with a limited number of other brands of batteries unless you want that as they can cost more to add brand tied batteries. That quote of €4800 for 5kWh battery is very high, you could almost get 10kWh for that.

If they can't lift them, don't sell them. Not all need to go into the attic btw. Asides from that €4800 for a 5kWh battery is a complete rip off no matter how you look at it.

Lads any feedback on the above?

David Hunt reckons it's a good deal, haven't got other quotes just yet but if this looks good I'd likely just go with it.

8500e is before grant.

Just a follow up to this.

The installer's insurance company has agreed to pay the 5 figure repair bill for my roof. It's great that they have agreed a settlement, but I could have done without all of the hassle involved over almost a year.

The installers have never filed any paperwork with the SEAI, so the grant has now lapsed.

I'm on that road now. The roofer that built the roof originally would be my choice, but he's uncertain about removing and restoring the panels. He works with the builder that provided the quote, so they'll probably get someone in to do the panels.

Long story short... They asked for a quote to get the damage fixed. They then sent out an adjuster to have a look at the damage. He agreed that the quoted figure was reasonable and the insurance company gave the go-ahead to get the work done and they will pay the bill.

I'm just really glad that the cowboys had insurance in place. Honestly, if they had admitted the damage instead of putting up the Bart Simpson defence, I would have agreed that they remove the panels while my roofer did the repairs, then put them back up. Denying they did any damage was what got my back up. I hope their insurance company screws them when renewal time comes around.

Good quote, check your usage times and if you might need more panels on the west if you can split them differently to take into account evening usage. Do the maths on a battery before discounting one, load shifting and being able to run certain things in power cuts for example are a plus so decide now if you might want to install a hybrid inverter in case you decide to get batteries down the road.

Hi, Can anyone please advise if this is a good quote? It's significantly cheaper than one we got from another company who have a rep for being expensive, but that's not much to compare too!

5.88kw system

14 panels (tiger neo)

5kw inverter Huawei

3.68kw diverter & Eddi

€7900 after grant

System will be battery ready, but won't have a battery installed.

That's over ten grand before grant. Seems a bit steep to me. As advised here before, dump the Eddie, your feedin at 21c will pay for twice+ that in oil or gas hot water only heating (unless you have a heatpump which should also convert the solar to 3 times the HW kwh in HW mode). Heating with an immersion is mad, daytime its 5 times the cost of oil at the moment. You'd want the treasure on Monkey Island to pay for it #Guybrush, you gave me a real 90s nostalgia moment when I seen the name. 🏴‍☠️🦜

Regarding the Libbi, just that it had extremely poor performance and tech support. But this was feedback from the company proposing the Livoltek. The fact that you haven't heard of the Livoltek would lead me to believe it's not very popular (or it's very new to market).

Even one cycle/day is optimistic for a battery especially a large one with a modest number of panels. Charge and discharge losses, and inverter efficiency must be factored in, plus poorer charge inefficiency for the last 20% of the battery. If you had enough panels to return say 8kw/ day averaged over the year from a 10kw battery, this entirely free electricity will amount to 365 x 10 x 8 kwh after ten years. This 29,200 units at say 25c when prices finally return to the average will return €7300 on your 10kwh battery. If prices fall lower or if it being discharged during off peak rates then ireturn is less. You'll need several more years life from it before it makes financial sense. If you want to factor in time shifting, where you but night rate to use at morning peak before the Sun comes up, the same liseesxand inefficiencies apply, you will buy 12kwh to for back less than 10 out, so the savings per kwh are possibly single figures when prices finally return to sensible levels.

I suspect you could be looking at quantum improvements in battery technology during that next 5+ years, with prices tumbling down. This is one constant with evolving technology, a months pay worth of a new technology will collapse to a few days pay in a very short period of years. The first basic mobile phone here in 1985 cost €5k in todays money. A GSM Nokia was €300 at todays prices in 2001. By 2023 that standard of basic phone if available is a €25 throwaway.

Get a system with a battery option, get feed in on your excess, wait a year and see what a battery might save you if anything when you write it down over ten years. Be realistic about the efficiency of charge, discharge and inverter conversion efficiency. The latter doesn't matter when supplied by panels, but if you're paying to pump a battery full at night, only to lose 20% plus, the margins are very tight on your investment. Ten grand would probably install ventilation heat recovery.

Doing 1 cycle a day is easy enough - but like most things, depends on your situation. Here's my "battery in" for the last 6 months.

8.2Kwh battery (it's like a 9.x kwh under the hood) and if I'm putting in 220-230Kwhr a month into it, that's 230/8.2 = 28 cycles. So near enough to 1 a day. Doing more than that.....yeah, I could still do that with a bigger battery......but as deezell says above, financially it's dubious. (I'm not in it for the financials - well not as a primary motivation anyway)

Battery System (Alpha)

6.4kWp of modules kitted to 10.1kWh battery storage

16 x Bisol Premium 400W Monocrystalline modules (All black modules)*

Bisol Mounting system on a *Slate Roof (*Price may vary on roof type)

1 x Projoy Fire Safety Switch

AC Switchgear

Alpha 5kWp Inverter kitted to 10.1kWh storage capacity

Costing

€13,148 (Exclusive of VAT)

-€2,400 (SEAI Grant)

€10,748 Final Cost after Grant Incentive (Excluding VAT)

What do ye think?