President Biden closes gun control speech in USA with 'God save the Queen'

Yes but he's not a literal Nazi. You will not find Trump's name in any Nazi (or Neo-Nazi) party list. Thats literal Nazi for you. Figurative Nazi would be someone who you are comparing to the Nazis.

Ignoring the vitriol and baiting in your first paragraph and addressing the issue, I'm not a desantis fan either, I was referring to the challenger candidate. Someone that could run in the primaries, defeat biden and win an election. I genuinely think the next election is no foregone conclusion for the democrats at this point if biden runs. Considering that the most votes ever received #1 and #2 were both in the last election, it's clear that it brings out voters on both sides. What's also clear is the 20-25 percentage points that Trump will receive from MAGA republicans and likely would receive even if he is in prison. There's also a larger amount probably 30-35 percentage points of the voter base that will vote for ABT anyone but trump regardless of affiliation - so if trump runs they vote for whoever the democrats run. That leaves ~35-45% of the voter base remaining. Who is best placed to take that cohort is who will win the next election. I can't really see who is more likely to win that, given. that Biden is a laughing stock and Trump lost to him as the incumbent

Is it any wonder Boards is a mess, when threads like this one turn into a whataboutery shitshows.

Trump is an awful man who will probably be in jail within 18-24 months. But this isn't about him.

Biden, who I believe has the best interests of the American people at heart, is doing himself and the office of President no good running again. He looks like a man who's powers are fading and that can't be a good look for the US especially when dealing with foreign powers. Friend or foe.

It says a lot about American politics that he is the only one the democrats have faith in to defeat Trump, but they've been barreling down this road for decades so maybe this was the inevitable outcome of a two party system that is open to corruption.

Biden should step down at the end of this session as president and let someone else take on the fight.

The bigger problem though, and it's one which we here in Ireland are enthusiastically importing ourselves, is the US is so split and divided politically, economically and socially that there probably IS no-one else (on either "side") who could change any of that for the better. Of the current forerunners, is there ANYONE who could inspire confidence?

America's time in the sun is over and the way things are going, it could ultimately end up in a USxit for various States yet!

This is what 20 years of social media crusading, identity politics and victimhood have created - a former Superpower reduced to a laughing stock and on the brink of collapse on several fronts. It's no wonder the likes of Putin are feeling their oats! While America consumes itself on Transgender issues, Putin is trying to consume Ukraine and beyond if he succeeds. Why wouldn't he? There's no deterrent and outside of the West, not many care about these crusades.

But as I mentioned, we're soaking up the worst of it all too as a browse through the CA forum will show and even more dangerously, Helen McEntee's "Hatred" bill which if successful will restrict and criminalise the right to even discuss these things because it might offend someone else!

Clearly both of them are mentally and medically unfit for office. They need to get new candidates.

In fairness I wouldn’t use Sky News Australia as a source for anything. Has nothing to do with Sky anymore; still owned by Murdoch and has a hard right narrative. So it’s more like Fox News Australia.

That's why I said it's not the editorial/narrative that should be focussed on but the videos they are highlighting and the concerns they raise.

Much like a lot of Europe then really! It was different times. Not saying it was or is right, but that's how countries expanded and increased their power back then.

The problem now though in 2023 is how America is eating itself with a lot of self-manufactured problems and issues to sow further internal division and conflict, and the impact that is having not just on the US itself but the rest of the World.

Is Hillary even an option any more? DeSantis seems to be going the Trump route. Complaining about woke things, but screwing up what he's trying to do and hurting his own constituents

He’s not a Nazi because he’s not on the membership roster? Brilliant unassailable logic there.

Let me put it like this,

Which was 12 years after Trump's dad was arrested in neighboring Queens at a KKK rally

Not only is it probable he could have attended this rally, but his son's "America First" platform is a literal extension of the American Nazi Party's positions prior to the invasion of Pearl Harbor (which is when the movement abruptly atomized). The only real respect in which it differs significantly is that Trump supports the recognition of a Jewish ethnostate (Israel), but the party itself was divided by its antisemitism. Similarly however, the Nazis also predated on LGBTQ minorities to gin up their base (https://rm.coe.int/079317-queer-in-europe-during-the-second-world-war-web-web/16808e4a53). Nevermind the Trump family's long and painstakingly documented, court record history of discrimination that aligns in there (housing discrimination suits and the Central Park Five).

And very similar to today this group's platform was US isolationism, to keep the US out of the European war being waged by Putin Hitler, and that any deviation from this, such as sending humanitarian or military aid to Ukraine europe, was tantamount to weakening American national security, such as by divesting funds and materiel that could otherwise be used to buff our own defenses from invasion.

And this is all without regard to his Beer Hall Putsch January 6 Insurrection. That people want to split the hair on whether he is a literal nazi or a figurative one, I see very little distinction.

"He wouldn't even allow the uninjected into his country at the time".

You say that like its a bad thing.

Advance Disclaimer; I dont give a donkeys about Trump or Biden.

But back to the point. Cv19 may or may not have been a lab developed bioweapon. People still debate that fiercely.

So in the context of a global pandemic possibly caused by a bioweapon the scandal is the part where some clown leaves the doors wide open to untreated foreigners.

I imagine in the future the airport doors will slam shut a lot quicker.

Not letting a pandemic to walk right in and trim your herd is not the sort of thing you point at and criticize.

Oooh. He wouldnt even let Typhoid Mary in. Awful man.

Droll

To go back on the topic of the thread, apparently Biden has the odd habit of ending his remarks with phrases whose significance is mostly legible only to him. "God save the queen" is also what he said right after certifying Trump's election in 2017. He seems to use it to mean something like, "God help us all.

So anyone who ever mutters God Save the Queen is a nutter now?

Right he should say things more contemporary, with the times, and American, like "Bing Bing Bing, Bong Bong?"

All joking aside - he is well past it and not medicilly fit for another term. In fairness to him, he should have retired a long time ago.

Says a lot about the state of US politics when the past two presidents have been in their 70s and heading for 80's