Republic of Ireland Team 2023/24 [old thread]

He didn't have to build a new squad from scratch, he inherited a squad that came so close to qualifying for Euro 2020. He had the perfect chance to blend this squad with a host of young talent coming through. He has absolutely blown it and really damaged our development. Keeping him in charge is the least sensible option to take.

I blame the media as well as Kenny on this What in the name of jayus has got into them? Going all pseudo intellectual , vague and idealistic about football.

The idea is to fecking win games and get results for christ sake, make the team as competitive as possible based on the players available. Not have some sort of idealistic dreamland of how things are going to happen.

Mick has done that in past, MON has done it, Trap has done it. Ok there were points where it ran out of steam and wasn't great. But at least there was passion there was fight in it. Teams had to really work to beat Ireland. Ireland were in most games.

The media has gone from -

A new era new direction playing football 'the right way' - to embarrassment at how gullible and naive they were - to now pure pity for Kenny and Ireland.

It is mad I have never seen the like of it for any other previous Irish manager. There were very few voices of reason at all.

The media has basically lead the gullible, naive and idealistic eejits of fans down the garden path. Now they are at loss what to say now. Scrambling for excuses with gormless looks on their faces. That probably has been the most entertaining part of Kenny's reign watching/hearing the realisation dawn on such fans.

People are really in cloud cuckoo land these days.

This Ireland team just bends over with its kacks down, Kenny has designed them to get f**ked, ultra submissive/passive no energy. It is the worst football I have watched under any Irish manager because it makes most levels of opponents look good. That is the complete opposite of what it should be. If any team wants a confidence builder the easy answer is set up a friendly against Kenny's Ireland.

That scoreline definitely flattered us and we were lucky that Greece squandered a number of chances to make it three, four, maybe even five. I know they made a pigs ear of one chance in the first half and had another bad miss in the second half

While Greece only cared about getting the three points I'd say they're disappointed they didn't put us to sword score wise given they played us off the park. They had seven shots on target, we had six shots all game with three on target. They had six off target and seven blocked.

Kenny's pay off is likely to be three months wages which would be €137,500. They wouldn't be that strapped with Keane now of the wage books and O'Shea likely on much less than what Barry and Eustace got wage wise.

Issue with the FAI getting rid of him now is I doubt the FAI have any imagination in terms of who they could get as a new manager outside of Carsley. Knowing them they'd likely be going off that desperate next managers list Paddy Power had up for betting odds and going eeny, meeny, miny, moe if Carsley turns them down.

Not in anyway defending Kenny, but we are crying out for a decent number 8 or couple. Smallbone has lot to prove yet too. Will give him benefit of doubt for now. Still young.

That’s a great post, fair play!!

Yes I have listed other alternatives as managers -

1) Roy Keane

2) A double team of Hodgson and Duff - similar to the Stan/Robson mould

3) Mick McCarthy would steady the ship safe part of hands even on a part time basis

4) Brian Kerr could be given some sort of role/advisor/manager/coach or something. His football knowledge has been criminally wasted IMO.

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A huge chuck of the Irish vocal fanbase have been gullible you only have to read this thread. Back when Ireland were passing it back sideways and backwards against Finland and Bulgaria. Where they were Ireland were no threat. People used the argument about possession stats, But a fella with half a brain could see Ireland were playing the safe possession pass, nothing progressive about it. There was no midfielder brave enough or able enough to make that penetrative forward pass.

Roll on two years or so and not much as changed. The heart has been ripped out this Irish side by Kenny, it has lots it's bite, doesn't close down quick enough, no fight. It is like a showroom house, looks great on the outside but there is nothing inside only facades.

I would agree with you throwing Kenny out now would be silly. I believe he is contracted to the next campaign going by his contract is up until the end of the campaign. And as Kenny said it is up to the FAI whether they renew it or not.

There is a provision in the contract for the FAI to terminate the contract based on performances without having to pay any compensation.

Says the same fella who had no clue who he wanted as the next Irish manager. You are the poster boy of the type of idealistic fan who has big dreams but comes up way short on practicalities. It is a laughable mentality. You are in fact one of the main reasons I keep coming back to this thread because I wonder what excuse @athlone99 going to come up with next? And you trot another one out. With some form of mental gymnastics. Half the time I am thinking he can't be serious with that one?

The players are playing for Kenny was another one of your lines, when it was pointed out correctly by another poster if this is the players playing for Kenny what does that say about his level of management!?

Hodgson for example could well work in a part time advisory role all you do is come up with glib excuse after excuse NOT to pick a manager. Kenny was paid 540k per year that has been wasted IMO. Well over a million spent on incompetence so far.

I think part of the reason is you really brought into the 'cult of Kenny', Now that option has proven to be an utter failure you are lost for ideas. That seems to be it in a nutshell for me. Your main occupation on this thread is spent coming out with excuses for Kenny, and deriding any other choices, and then if that does not work the posters themselves.

Have you ever considered that people ripping into the Roy Keane option are wrong or clouded by their own biases? I doubt you have because for you a lot of this is not about the qualified candidate it is about 'optics' for you. Roy Keane is the most qualified candidate, realistic candidate and available candidate by far as simple as that.

Would you call Kenny a 'failed manager'? I doubt you would because you would make up some other laughable type of trope to pretend he achieved something. The fella can't even do a press conference for christ sake nevermind his tactical and motivational shortcomings. Noel King was less of an embarrassment.

You want change, but you don't know what change you want - that's great....

Especially when they bundle the tickets for the glamour fixtures with one of the lesser ones.

All the players fault, never Kenny's. The playoffs were a perfect chance for a new manager bounce and qualifying for a major tournament. Slovakia were missing a few of their main players. It turned out to be failure number 1 in the growing list of Kenny debacles.

A huge pay increase, clearly linked with performance. 🤣 He's some chancer, robbed the FAI of over a million.

I'm struggling to think of one player left out that was so good

So funny to see one guy just repeatedly astroturfing the thread, insulting other posters and questioning their knowledge when his big ideas are Roy Keane, Mick McCarthy and Brian Kerr.

I love Roy Keane, one of my all time favourite players and I enjoy his gimmick of grumpy old man as a pundit but my god is he a shite manager. Oh and he's not taking any job for less than 7 figures. Just delusional **** to repeatedly bring him up.

Mccarthy is a joke. A dinosaur who did a good job 25 years ago but has no place in any management role in 2023.

Brian Kerr, the so called fountain of knowledge who can't be bothered to do any research for his commentary/pundit roles on Virgin. The man hasn't been employed since he was involved with the Faroe Islands. Real major league stuff.

Kenny has simultaneously done a good job blooding new players and giving underutilised older players international experience while having some very disappointing results. Whether we qualify for the Euros or not he should go at the end of this campaign. I don't think anyone would dispute that he's been given a fair shake as manager.

I agree that Carsley seems the most likely to get the job. But if its not Carsley and while I don't think he'd take the job, we probably can't afford him, I'd love to see the FAI gauge the interest of Nathan Jones. He was out of his depth at Southampton but did a good job previously at Luton where he wouldn't have been on huge money.

who manages them? we should get him in. seems to know how to get results.

I don't know what astroturfing is which says to me you must be a young lad.

To say McCarthy is a dinosaur is just ageist. He knows Ireland and knows the players. Used to making teams hard to beat. Simple. Again you want optics rather than a safe pair of hands.

Kerr would be utilised in any other country. he is being wasted - yet some fellas want us to import a fella like Lagerback when Kerr is more than capable of being a technical director

The Kenny blooded players argument is the only positive left for him it seems? I said way back let him do his thing and a proper manager after him can sort the mess out.

.And it looks like that is going to happen. Most of those blooded who will likely stay in the side for the next manager would have came through anyway. Bazunu, Ferguson, Collins etc. I also remind you that Staunton blooded players, McCarthy blooded players after Jack. You mention it as if it is a skill. The skill is moulding them not capping them.

Carsley why would he want the job? Nathan Jones? Why??? And why would he be interested in Ireland? He talks himself up anyway. Which reminds me of Kenny saying to Tony O'Donoghue (when almost in tears) that he was 'not used to losing'. And then listing off his Dundalk record

Reminiscent of Kenny when

What is with you making personal assumptions about everyone that disagrees with you? A very strange flex to make personal slights about everyone that sees things differently.

To say McCarthy is a dinosaur is to understand he hasn't been relevant in over a decade, nothing got to do with his age. He's failed in every one of his last 4 jobs. He could be 25 and I'd hold the same opinion if he had such a shite record.

Kerr is a joke. He gets put on this pedestal as some genius when nobody in football will touch him. Either he's an arsehole who nobody can stand to deal with or he's not the genius people like you proclaim him to be. And being that plenty of arseholes are currently employed across football I'm gonna guess its option 2.

It's been explained above why Carsely is likely, try reading what other people say. By what I can see they know more than you so you're likely to learn something. And if you actually read what I said, I said Jones likely wouldn't be interested but he's someone I'd love to see the new FAI approach because it would show some ambition and thinking outside of the box

Hey, I have no doubt they're on the rise. They are still a very lowly ranked team. It's strange that the ranking of Georgia or how they've improved wasn't brought up when our previous manager drew away to them.

i don’t mean to be uncivil but …who cares ..like