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FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3 - Threadbanned User List in OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Green support is highly transient. A lot of its 2020 votes were due to the Greta Thunberg hysteria and SF transfers going all over the place. With that moron O'Gorman making a mess of things on Immigration and Ryan trying to cause problems with Agriculture (a lot of FF and FG support is rural), the Greens may be recycled in the next GE. Labour is in real trouble on that percentage. It is a national opinion poll though. On 3%, it would be difficult to retain any Labour seats. Aontu could gain some of the conservative FF/FG vote.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    This government just put up the price of diesel & petrol under the auspices of ‘excise duty’, with more increase on the 1 September & 31 October. In the meantime I just came across this:

    You really couldn’t make this up



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,608 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Oil prices have been dropping for months which is why SA is cutting output to try and boost prices, excise duty is being restored to what it was after the spike in oil prices.

    if they spike like that again, excise will probably be cut again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Murph85


    Maybe they should actually build the metro this time...



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    Is it any wonder the health system here is in such a mess:

    https://www.thejournal.ie/india-nurses-ireland-6084081-Jun2023/



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  • Registered Users Posts: 34,642 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Not the Dept of Justice's fault if employers or agencies are making a bollox of applications. Some of those agencies sound very dodgy. Try immigrating legally to the US, Canada, Australia, etc etc without having all of your i's dotted and t's crossed.

    Then other people complain that we're not doing enough checking on qualifications, criminal records etc. on health system workers we do let in...

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 86,093 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Leo Varadkar says elderly won't be left in lurch with nursing homes converted for refugees

    The Taoiseach acknowledged that nursing homes are closing for this purpose, but he said that bed numbers in nursing homes could be kept steady

    FROM DUBLIN LIVE

    How exactly, is that not a contradiction????



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭howiya


    Credit where credit is due.

    https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/major-supermarket-slashes-cost-of-more-than-700-items-kicking-off-grocery-price-war/a1593244520.html

    Fair play to Neale Richmond. People scoffed when he brought the retailers in for a chat.

    They shouldn't have doubted the man who was responsible for €14bn of trade in his 6 day St Patrick's Day trade mission.

    A future Fine Gael leader no doubt.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    Does this also mean Donnolly will be working weekends too?

    I’m all for everyone being entitled to a break, but I’m also of the belief that a ‘leader’ leads by example.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,128 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    He had zero influence on that price war. Tesco saw an opportunity and went for it. They got great PR because of it and we've seen supermarket price wars many times before. Don't you worry, the consumer will still be gouged and Fine Gael will remain useless.

    How much will the Children's hospital cost us? Nobody knows? Already 6 times over budget and nobody knows the final cost. It's also 6 years late. That's Fine Gael.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭howiya


    Perhaps you missed the sarcastic tone of my post...



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,642 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Are you comparing to the Bertie-era cost figure for the NCH at the Mater? Because that was a complete con job. Major contributors to it being late and more expensive are because a completely unsuitable site at the Mater was chosen and lots of time, effort and money completely wasted. But that's on Bertie trying to do a favour to his former employer.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 559 ✭✭✭dasa29




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Jesus thats dire for FG. There very well might be a heave against Leo



  • Registered Users Posts: 36,284 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    There should be a heave.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Blut2


    The Varadkar effect in action. The main government party, of a government that has lucked into effectively having limitless money to spend due to our corporate tax bonanza, and they're still managing to mess things up badly enough to hemorrhage support.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Even the FFGers no longer seem to be defending Varadkar. He has been a complete disaster for FG and an embarrassment. Things are bad when even Harris and McEntee (both county councillor level at best) are considered possible replacement. Naturally, RTE were focused on SF losing a few percent but the reality for FG is that on 18%, it may struggle to break 20 seats at the next GE.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    SC will be the next leader and I suspect Paschal will be off to Europe.

    I don't rate Helen and the fact she has been given the Justice ministry is incredible. Poor politican.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Blut2


    Shes terrible - cut from very similar cloth to Leo. Just all spin and ignoring facts. She was caught out badly here recently (short 1min 40sec video, well worth a watch):

    Coveney will do a lot better electorally if he gets it, hes a lot closer to the center politically and a lot more personable. Thats historically been the winning formula for Irish politicians.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    This is shameful and a bloody disgrace:

    Makes me wonder why these amateur clowns use tax payers money for ‘advisors’?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,128 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    More chaos in the Children's Hospital project. Nobody seems to know what's going on or the final cost or the completion date. The overruns are impacting other capital projects too. FG entirely at fault here.

    Children's hospital board says 'minor works' needed (rte.ie)

    The National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (NPHDB) issued the statement in response to Sinn Féin claims of potential remedial work required on 11 operating theatres, possible overruns of tens of millions of euro and delays in completing the facility.

    The board described the potential works as minor and said what was of critical importance was that the contractor had still not provided a programme of works.

    Mr Donnelly said what concerned him was that there was not yet a compliant programme of works from the contractor.

    Because of this, the NPHDB has told the contractor BAM that it intends to withhold 15% of the payments due.

    "That it will add potentially tens of millions to the cost of the children's hospital, but also could take up to 12 months to complete the changes because what we're talking about here in terms of the operating theatres are obviously very, very sensitive theatres, they involve in the ceilings, gas pipes, oxygen pipes, live sprinkler system, electrical pipes."

    Mr Cullinane said it would "be wrong for the board to downplay this" and said the Government "has to come clean, they can't be asleep at the wheel" over the issue.

    Social Democrats TD Catherine Murphy said it is "very difficult to know what to believe and know " when the hospital will be complete.

    Speaking to RTÉ's News at One, she called on the Government and the board to provide clarity.

    Ms Murphy said: "It’s pretty basic to know when the hospital is going to be completed."

    She added: "Delays are costing money because it’s built into the contract building inflation so it does matter when the hospital is completed and we do need clarity on this."

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,871 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    The problem there is FG don't know how to do heaves. . . . . If they were on the Titanic they'd sit around looking at the water arriving in wondering when it's going to go away. These are seriously thick but rich folk.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,648 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Think he works weekends already. As do all Ministers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,648 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    It seems the Queen of Outrage was disrupting the Dail over a few ceiling grilles having to be moved. Who is surprised?

    A typical nothing politics story.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,128 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    We shall see. Oh yeah the Children's hospital disaster is a nothing story alright. 6 years late and 1.5bn over budget already. Nobody knows final cost or completion date. Crazy stuff.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    I heard a FF representative ( Jennifer Carroll MacNeill I think ) & Roisín Shortall on Drivetime this evening. The FF rep came across as very bombastic., reckoning the extra cost would be ‘only’ €1.2 million and no time lost. Incredible stuff specially as She ( it was a woman ) admitted to not having seen the report.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Blut2


    Carroll MacNeill is a FG TD in Dun Laoghaire.

    If the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (NPHDB) is saying these changes could take up to an additional 12 months, as they are, its going to cost a hell of a lot more than €1.2mn.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,529 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Carroll MacNeill seems to be one of the few capable TDs that FG have at the moment, I've heard her get into it with the shinners a few times and she destroyed them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    Apologies, I thought she was a FF’er. Thanks for enlightening me.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    She didn’t get very far with RS, who was well able for her. But her attitude stank - very cocky.


    just found the link and I must apologise, it was Lisa Chambers & Roisín Shortall.




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