President Biden closes gun control speech in USA with 'God save the Queen'

There is two teleprompters literally visible. He's also at a podium with his speech book.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-those-clear-plastic-squares-that-are-always-mounted-to-the-left-and-right-of-the-President-as-he-gives-a-speech

Bidens trip to Mayo and that speech has been cited multiple times on this thread and not just by me.

You have no answer to it other than the typical tactics of deflection and playing the victim.

How do you even know what Bidens normal self is? Have you a baseline from 2013? 2018? How familiar are you with his stutter and how that can cause speech issues? Well?

You havent even seen his speech in Mayo.

So you would not comment on something you havent seen in full but it is blatantly obvious you dont have a full picture of Biden.

Yet you seem to think you are ok to not just comment on him but diagnose dementia from afar.

In replying to your posts I am not replying to you alone. You referenced dementia and another poster used the marbles phrase which is slang for same. So I am addressing the thread and also on the thread 'marbles' as a phrase was referenced.

"President Biden closes gun control speech"

I'm in the right place?

President Biden closes gun control speech in USA with 'God save the Queen' is the full title.

Click on page one to see the OP.

That's literally why they are there set up like that, it gives the impression hes not looking at them because its eye level - he can see them easily wherever he looks.

I see you sneaky edited your post also. Im sorry to burst your bubble on it - but nobody would be expected to know that off - and it was a super speech.

Yep changed the post because i only noticed the telepromptors for the first time. Like Biden I aint perfect and prone to gaffes, but I also don't have dementia.

And I'm done with this thread. You clearly haven't proved he has dementia, apart from citing a few clips of gaffes out of thousands of hours in the public domain. We must be talking of something like 1% of the time he makes a gaffe, which is about average for any normal human being.

I have no doubt you will focus on the gaffes though and ignore anything else. Balance really isn't your strong point is it?

Good, maybe you should. You can see I post about him frequently and cover the news multiple times a day. If you follow it a little bit every day, you won't have to play such big catch-ups in the future.

Having personally voted for Joe Biden, I will let you know when I think his mental health is of genuine political concern. I've been on boards.ie across 4 Presidential administrations and each and every one of them were the subject of this ridiculous cycle of making mustard out of molehills. With Trump, he actively sought out controversy: he chose to take the dementia test with the elephants on it, it wasn't ordered by the WH surgeon, or anything like that, they were not concerned with his mental competency either.

Yep if folks actually watched his speeches he's still mentally all there . Not some edited bits or the odd gaffes.

Most people wouldn't do so well at public speaking either. Dementia my arse.

Watch the speeches day after day instead of cherrypicked stuff on youtube. He gives huge numbers of speeches.

Any of you ever try to give a speech when tired ?. I have and it's been terrible.

It wasn't meant as a personal attack. Just an observation that you can't help referring to Trump constantly in a thread about Biden.

Wait a second, we are not just talking about verbal “gaffes” . This verbal gaffe labeling is being spun to downplay things it seems.

President Biden needs physical help to find his podium in many cases and has even collapsed in public on stage after presenting as confused.

And Are we ignoring everything else apart from his display in Ireland? In which he did make a very bad “Gaffe” in relation to the black and tans - no big deal in isolation but the issue is it’s not an isolated incident.

i’ll ask again - if this was your parent would you not be concerned for their health?

Again - this thread is not about Trump.

The thread is about a verbal gaffe. He has been making verbal gaffes for decades.

You included a video which just showed verbal gaffes, with cherry picked pieces of him tripping over his words - ignoring the rest of the speech and speeches he got right. He has a stammer - have you acknowledged this as a possible factor in his verbal gaffes? Did I miss that post?

Who said we are ignoring the rest? You are the one ignoring the performance he put in in Ireland, which seems to be irreconcilable with your amateur \ armchair medical commentary. He mixed up "All Blacks" and "Black and Tans". Absolutely of no consequence, everyone knew what he meant and laughed at it.

Have you watched his speech in Mayo? Have you even watched the entirety of his gun control speech?

So don't talk to me about ignoring things when you consistently do so.

When did he 'collapse' on stage? That's a very specific claim.

If this was a parent I would not be concerned for their health, other than the general strain of the President's workload for an 80 year old. I hope when I am 80 I will be as able as he is eg for a trip like he has done to Ireland and Europe.

Well I wouldn't put it in quite those terms, but there does seem there are times when America is ok with having a old man they know in the White House, who can be trusted not to rock the boat and keep the ship of state on a steady course. The US has so many layers of government it's not like a PM.

At other times a punt on youth like JFK, Obama, Clinton.

Your other replies:

You are diverting the conversation and attempting to portray that all that has been raised is verbal gaffes which is simply untrue.

You talk for cherry picking yet harp on and on about Ballina and ignore literal video evidence of someone who appears to be in poor health.

You would be a bad child then if you wouldn’t be concerned for your parent - at least have him checked out to make sure he is getting all the help he needs.

You are suggesting an enforced retirement age for public representatives regardless of health (again, you can attack the doctors doing the medical if you have a shred of evidence).

What age would you suggest?

You would be a bad child? Will you read that back to yourself.

You're gone on now to personal attacks when your armchair medical diagnosis are rebutted.

I see nothing in what has been presented here to show concern over and above what is normal for an 80 year old who it still working.

I genuinely can't understand why certain posters are taking this so PERSONALLY and lashing out as a result.

• This thread is about Biden, not Trump. As I said the first time that deflection tactic was brought up on P1, there's a whole thread for discussing the latter's many failings.
• There are LOTS of videos of Biden's confused behaviour, disjointed rambling and "gaffes" on YouTube and elsewhere. You don't have to agree with whatever editorial slant comes with the videos to be able to see the concerns for yourself.
• Constant deflecting, whataboutery, and attacking semantics is not a counter-argument. It only defeats whatever point you are trying to make.

Honestly, you'd think some posters were defending their grandfather the way some of the posts read!

"If he very concerned and at least have him checked out"...poster must have dementia

Strange reply. I am not the one who made the claim about dementia. Or 'losing his marbles'. Why don't you reply to the posters who did? We are not "reeling out a red herring", we are rebutting specific false claims. Take it up with them.

And if you are concerned about candidates past their prime, where is your post on the Trump thread remarking on his gaffes as an understandable consequence of age that rule him out of office?

There is an obvious partisan agenda at play here.

It has been pointed out multiple times he has a stammer. He has been making verbal gaffes for long time. It is not evidence of anything new.

He has the physical issues of an 80 year old. There's no evidence presented here Biden is incapable of being President. Because that's the bar. So what we have here is a nothing burger.

I could have! Hopefully my family would help me if I was confused, disorientated and falling over after being confused and disorientated - especially if it was a regular occurance.

It's not conspiracy to suggest that some of the attacks on Biden are motivated by a pro-Trump or pro-Republican agenda. It is obvious politics. It would be politically naive to think otherwise.

And the pure partisanship of those attacks is proven by the way the same sources do not raise any concerns about 77 year old Trump's falls or gaffes. So it is entirely valid to mention Trump in that context as it shows up the partisan motivation.

Biden mixed up God Save the Queen and God Save Us All; the Black and Tans and All Blacks; he mis-spoke the year between 2020 and 2023. In otherwise coherent speeches advocating his current policies. His gaffes are of no consequence.

Trump is legally incriminating himself daily, and embarrassing himself politically. Oh and he falls on slopes and podiums too.

I know which one I would be telling to shut up and lay low if I cared about them!

He’s not the current president though? Who cares expect those using it as some gotcha argument? Why do you care what trump is at even? It’s not like if Biden died today Trump would he back in the White House! Don’t worry. The orange man can’t hurt you anymore.

All of that doesn’t change the fact that the subject of this thread is likely mentally incapacitated to some degree.

It is a gotcha argument to the hypocrisy, double standards and partisanship of some of the obviously pro-Trump attacks on Biden on this thread.

That's not really a fact though is it? You are making medical statements of fact you have no standing to make, with evidence that comes nowhere near to establishing it as a fact.

Nothing presented on the thread reaches the standard of dis-barring Biden from carrying out his duties. If you think an 80 year old isn't able to do the job, that's your opinion, that's fair enough as long as it is consistently applied.

I didn't realize he had invaded Ukraine.