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Cork traffic

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,330 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The real problem in Cork city are pedestrians and cyclists, not drivers of motor vehicles. But somehow somebody (stupid) decided that cars are a problem.

    Yeah I hate people who use their legs to get around as well!!

    These most recent posts have confirmed my suspicions that these posts aren't genuine but just someone having a laugh. Well played Diabhalta, well played. 👏



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1


    Diabhalta must be a pisstake at this stage. I believed it for a while as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 705 ✭✭✭lostinsuperfunk


    My favourite post was "We don't drive on footpaths" followed by a picture of a car parked on a footpath. How did it get there?



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Tony Polster


    Brilliant!


    I was thinking nobody could be that stupid, but yer one Diabhalta has proved us all wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Ah, you are using the wrong kind of logic!

    The cause of the car on the footpath is the lack of parking spaces and the proliferation of cycle lanes and oversized footpaths. It is not the fault of the driver who drove their car onto the footpath and left it there!

    A couple of years ago there was wonderful "logic" used in a similar thread. A poster claimed that if the fixed costs of motoring were reduced, people would be encouraged to use their cars less. The "logic" was that as people pay so much to have cars that they are damn well going to use them - make it cheaper and they would walk and cycle! They argued this point over and over.

    This is what you are up against.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Anybody knows what's happening next week on harbourview road, why is it closed from monday the 26th?

    I assume they will be building the raised pedestrian crossings that were promised?


    correct, children cannot play on the road, that's why they go to a park.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    I am talking about city centre re the parks, none of those places you mentioned are in the city centre (except the junkie and bird sh1t park). By the time you get to Atlantic pond etc. your ice cream will melt. Quays are roads, no benches.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    City you mean the council? Sorry but what I see is degeneracy. They clearly haven't talked to experts to see what's the best thing to do. Everything takes longer, people are driving through red lights that's how much it sucks to be driving in city centre nowadays. All the changes ruined this whole place, city council ruined this place, totally.

    it's busy in the morning and in the afternoon 3-6pm, that's about it. What's the policy on empty double deckers following each other? is that staying also? from like 9-3pm very few people use the public transport.

    the space is out there, the council is removing parking spaces for who knows what reason. The will isn't there.

    I don't think you realise that this isn't spain, it's summer now, come september it's over. People won't be cycling like they do now, whoever thinks they will is delusional. Public transport sucks it's unbelievable how sh1tty it is.

    Considerations towards pedestrians jaywalking and cyclists just being nuisances and cycling wherever they like? Society is too soft on stupid people, that's the problem. Too many sausages everywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    Cork city is called a city only because it's large in size. In fact cork city is a village, and majority of people living here are villagers. It's ok to walk, it's not ok to be a moron while walking. Try some stuff people are doing here abroad, and people will think you clearly have low IQ.


    just look at this guy, having a stroll in the middle of a junction. Nobody cares. Some village ffs, I know we are at the very end of Europe in the middle of nowhere but come on. Get your sh1t together will ya?




  • Registered Users Posts: 873 ✭✭✭crayon80


    Troll 🙄🙄🙄



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    It's still bonkers at the Opera House junction. People constantly making the illegal right turn and running red lights!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭flexcon


    During the gorgeous weather last week I had an hour to kill before the opera house, got the time wrong. Spent most of it watching on from Luigi Malones. Chaos.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,326 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    And if you are coming from the opera house direction and just on the turn to the bridge, those cars that make the illegal turn are looking at you as if you are in the wrong for blocking their way 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Also, I was in conversation with someone receently who genuinely assumed that the Patrick's Street restrictions were long done away with. They almost didn't believe me that it's still in place, given how it is routinely ignored and almost never enforced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Regarding the Opera House craziness, what boggles me is that the whole line of traffic held up by selfish drivers, typically just wait quietly behind these bell ends, with rarely even a beep.

    Although, this might be explained by the fact that a sizeable portion of the people held up are planning to do the very same thing themselves!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭cantalach


    I just land on the horn and don't let up until they move. Amazing how often that actually works. It was the same shít this morning when I was going up Summer Hill North and trying to turn left into York Hill. The whole junction was blocked up by selfish, entitled arséhóles coming down York Hill and taking the illegal right. €1,000 on the spot fine. No mercy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    This is what I expect people to do and probably what I would do but it is very annoying for pedestrians to be listening to that carry on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭cantalach




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I've found myself in horn blaring competitions. Subsequently, I've realised that any observers don't give a fiddlers who is in the right. They just see and hear two arseholes blaring their horns!

    I have been one of those arseholes (but in the right, of course 😂).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭flexcon


    Going to be brutally honest here and say I have done this a few times.

    Checked google maps thinking no way it's left turn only.

    Confirmed. Left turn only.

    hmm. I guess the only sign is right across the road, so if a bus is waiting in Line you could miss it. probably needs some writing on the road itself, or, the sign before the junction


    Either way, glad I didn't get a 1000 euro fine. Duly noted :)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭whatever76


    + 1 to the above regarding Right turn from York hill onto Summer Hill not allowed , McCurtain st a disaster these days from Patrick's hill and was stuck for time so took the detour via Wellington road to get back to capwell . I did not know this as I see loads of people doing it as I go up york hill now getting to Patrick's hill from south side .. now noted- , up to St Lukes I go as I reckon still be faster !! We need a north/South fly over bridges in the city 😀 !!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭cantalach


    Yeah, it's usually very quick to get out at St Luke's and shoot back down Summer Hill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,415 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Got some guy blasting the horn at me recently as i came from opera house side and he came from other direction cut across the traffic beside me going straight on!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭flexcon


    Well Cantalach! Your post just removed 2 drivers from turning right! Perhaps setting up camp one evening on a chair with a Physical post of our replies would be both humorous and productive!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,415 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Apparently traffic by the tunnel bad as ever despite the new layout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Bound to be teething problems. Most likely caused by poor driving due to unfamiliarity, rubbernecking and stupidity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Theres a long discussion about this in the Roads forum. Unfortunately it seems as if merging traffic from Mahon is causing the tailbacks now, not the tunnel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭flexcon


    people don't use all of the slipway coming from Mahon merging. They insist on just indicating, and stopping and waiting to be let in the moment they are level with the traffic. They need to drive down slowly and merge, use all of that lane.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    True people don't know how to use merging lanes. People are probably afraid of being accused of queue jumping in they are going passed stopped traffic in the main lanes.

    Hardly surprising when so many people have no idea how to use lanes, generally. We are a nation of middle lane drivers when it comes to 3 or more lanes.



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  • The problem is that when you do that inevitably someone won't let you in. I've tried to merge normally do many times here and 'merge like a zip' does not work.

    You are constantly relying on having to be let in and it's a dance of flashing headlights and thanking with flashes of hazard warners as if someone has done a massive favour for allowing a merge in heavy traffic rather than blocking the merging lane.

    If you get stuck in that lane between the Bloomfield interchange and Mahon Point on traffic it's almost impossible to merge. They all look ahead stoneyfaced and I assume thinking 'queue jumper!'

    My view of irish drivers is they don't know how the rules of the road work. Can't use lanes. Don't use indicators. Most people can't merge and treat merges like as if they're T junctions or something. I've seen people stopping on motorway merges without any reason to do so. They all drive in the middle lane on the M7 despite the extra lanes being added at cost of millions and millions. You even get the odd moron driving in the outer over taking lanes slower than traffic.

    A lot of drivers are often extremely petty and passive aggressive, particularly in heavy traffic and it causes clogs.

    Then you get the odd weird road rage episode. I had a situation where I was in a single lane which had a fly light but I was going straight on and it was full red. Nothing I could do but wait. Guy behind stood on the horn. Then got out of his car and sort of had a little rant waving his arms about and trying to pull my door open. Then got back into his car and couldn't start his engine... Total psycho.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    They need signs up all over the country about zipper merging, or merging in turn:



    The RSA should be running ads about it constantly too. It speeds things up and reduces accidents, but Irish drivers seem to interpret it as cutting in or jumping the queue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,415 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Go safe can at the tunnel still monitoring the 30 zone.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭whatever76


    they need to sort york hill out - its a disaster all cars now taking the illegallright . Constantly battle a car coming down aggressively to take the right turn down - also messing up Summer hill north traffic . Surely making traffic go down York street by Redzz needs to happen as you can go up Patrick's hill lower section now ... GRRRRRRRRRR!!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭whatever76




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Keplar240B


    hi

    Where can i find an update map that shows the traffic flow in the city center now in 2023?

    Yes .. I did google it to no avail. 😀



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,415 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Took a walk on mccurtain street today cars still parking on the path i assume they got tickets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭mrpdap


    I passed along the street today and several cars were parked on the footpaths. No sign of enforcement, but that’s not new.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,415 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Yet the wardens are very active around the city centre in particular.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I had words with someone driving on Patrick's Street yesterday. They appeared to be from Cork but were genuinely perplexed at my assertion that they were driving in a bus lane. They thought I was insane and making stuff up.

    Meanwhile, people continue to illegally turn right onto Christie Ring bridge and speed through the pedestrian crossing on red lights at same junction.

    Patrick's Quay seems to have become another popular weekend park entirely on the footpath spot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Noticed that theres cameras on all sides of the junctions at Christie Ring bridge and Patrick's Bridge, now.

    Hopefully they will be used for enforcement and not just surveys. (if that's legally possible)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,415 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Saw a guy drive up macurtain street from coliseum and turn left down bridge street,!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,415 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Apparently 100 parking tickets issued on McCurtain street since new layout was opened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    I've seen them ticketing a lot of people over the last few weeks. People parked fully up on the footpaths arguing with them.

    Lots on Patricks Quay too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭shawki


    Is the bus lane on Coburg St only at certain times?

    A rake of cars using it on Sunday at around 1pm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    That is being completely ignored by people who think they can still go from Watercourse Road to MacCurtain street.

    The bus lane on Devonshire street may as well not be there. It is ignored by all.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭whatever76


    that bus lane makes no sense on Devonshire street to me .( I have yet to see a bus on it ) .. are you supposed to stay in right lane all time if you want to go left at the lights to get to opera house bridge ( coming from Richmond hill) and just filter left in near the lights from a lane thats signalled right only ? Madness ...

    In addition they need to sort out the illegal right turn from york hill onto summer hill ( the FRESHLY painted Right arrow is not enough) ... doing my head in and loads of near misses from cars aggressively trying to filter in ..


    RANT OVER !! 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,968 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Is there any map of the changes anywhere?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I agree with what you are saying re Devonshire Street but the fact is that there is a bus lane there that is routinely ignored.

    Then up the road on Coburg Street, that bus lane is regularly ignored which is a much more serious matter as cars shouldn't be going up that street at all.

    Then at Christie Ring bridge, at every sequence of the lights, people illegally turn right onto the bridge.

    Around the corner, the Patrick's Street restrictions are routinely ignored.


    There seems to be a lawlessness around driving in the city where a huge amount of people run red lights, park wherever the fcuk they want and routinely ignore traffic restrictions - particularly any new ones. And it appears to be getting worse all the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭Schorpio


    The answer is enforcement cameras.

    Stick up a camera on the Patrick St. bus lane wand watch the problem disappear.

    Stick another camera up watching Christy Ring bridge, and be amazed as that problem disappears too.

    Lots of drivers have repeatedly demonstrated that they will continue to do whatever they want if there are no consequences. Camera would solve that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    There are cameras at Patrick's Bridge and Christie Ring bridge but I'm not sure if legislation is in place to use them for enforcement.

    Of all the issues, the light breaking is the most endemic and the worst. Cars speeding through pedestrian crossings is a serious accident waiting to happen!



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