Audi e-tron

So was on to AUDI about pass key they were really helpfull just have to wait for the logbook to arrive and they can bypass the system.

Still trying to navigate around the car system,Lad in work had a spin and he just thought the car unreal great build and fast .

If its useless for a company car it's even worse for the private motorist who can't write it off as an expense

Opened this thread a few pages back and saw some complaints about efficiency but doing 130kph. Same as the BMW i4 thread.

I don't get it...

We all know range drops off at 120kph, maybe don't get a thirsty EV if you can't sit at the speed limit lol.

Yeah just keep the normal cable in the car for public chargers that don't have their own if you come across one of them. Don't lug the 3 pin one around with you if you want the space.

I wouldn’t bother, a granny charger won’t do much for an e-Tron considering the size of the battery to be filled.

Yep I know someone with a 77kwh battery and very low mileage and only uses 3 pin. Gets about 1.7kwh per hour he reckons and it does him. Car is only used on short commute and plugged in for days on end sometimes. Extreme example

It's not really though?

I used a granny charger for 6 hours, 4 days on a row for several weeks at work plugging into a portakabin. Plug didn't even get warm. The charger (Hyundai brand) has variable power settings and would reduce them automatically if needed as far as I know.

They're plugs made for household sockets, they draw a similar continuous power to a heater. I doubt they're drawing any mad apps/voltages either (I'm not an electrician, just guessing the house fire would be caused by something other than 2kW consumption)

Sure thats rubbish. They are rated for 13A, drawing 10A continuous is below the peak rating of the socket. My air conditioner is running about 12-18 hours a day at the moment (on solar so its free to run!) and it draws 2-3kW for hours by design. If you were pulling 13A continuous then I'd agree but you're not, you're pulling 10A on a 13A rated plug and socket, which - the socket - is likely on a 20A circuit.

Years ago when I was in a rented house I used a granny cable every night for over a year and 60k km without issue.

Trust me, I used a granny charger for 3-4 months most nights for 8-10hrs while waiting to get a Zappi installed. After about 10 weeks, noticed the outdoor socket had melted close to one of the pins. Changed it out for an MK one on the advice of an electrician and minimised my usage. He wouldn’t recommend long term use and suggested I get the Zappi in a.s.a.p.

Can’t agree, entire house was rewired and tested to RECI standards only 8 years before. Outdoor socket that melted also fitted at that time on a separate ring circuit. I can’t advise further other than recommend you fit a proper Type 2 Wallbox if you plan to charge at home.

Lots of these horror stories if you want to research.

https://www.speakev.com/threads/3-pin-13a-plug-to-type-2-charging-cable.158175/

Plus forum posts attract the negative. How many thousands of EV owners aren't posting that their granny charger didn't burn their house down?

A quality 13A socket/plug will work away fine for many many years pulling 10A and people have done that without issue.

The issue with long term use of a granny cable is that your average Joe isn't clued in enough to know/check whether they have a quality 13A socket or go to the bother of regularly checking that the granny cable isn't getting hot. Just because it worked today for 8hrs of charging doesn't mean it wont start overheating tomorrow.... and that's the real problem.

As you use the socket over time and you keep plugging the granny cable in/out it will wear the contacts and if its an already worn or cheap socket it can then result in a bad contact and arc'ing etc will happen and then the horror stories come from there. So, it is a risk. As long as you are aware of it then that's your call.

So, granny charging will work fine until it doesn't and that's why a proper charge point is recommended as its designed for long term outdoor use. A granny cable is not designed for long term use. Just because people have used it long term without problems doesn't mean its not a tangible risk, so you have to make up your own mind with that risk assessment.... similar to how some people dont like the idea of putting on appliances during the cheaper night rate electricity due to fire risk and others dont care about that risk.

I've used a granny cable for months and I use appliances at night and I'm comfortable with that choice but I wouldn't use a granny cable for years on end. If you really are using it for years on end why not just get the proper charge point and reduce your risk and get the benefit of the faster charging as well.

I guess the electrical upgrade costs would be one of the reasons why people revert to the granny cable.