New Children's Hospital - A symbol of Ireland's scandalous and shady behavior

Exactly. The location is horrible to drive to from anywhere in a hurry. Why not build close to M50?

It's called the children's hospital because your children and their children will be paying for it for a long time. 🤣

That's a particularly ludicrous allegation made without a single shred of evidence.

Politicians and higher civil servants have to declare share ownership on the register of interests.

Some guy didn't do a thing he was legally obliged to do. It doesn't make the law silly or useless.

Ah come on, tip of the iceberg. That was a FF senator in my constituency just last week. It makes a mockery of your point. He forgot because he knew there was no real penalties....Reform badly needed. Everyone knows that.

Ohh did I hit a sore point there?

You are having a laugh about declaring interests, right ?

How many politicians have been found out over the last couple of years dodging property ownership ?

And that is not even looking at family interests.

Why is it ridiculous ?

Politicians are checked up on by journalists because they are very much in the public eye, but who is checking up on the civil servants?

Oh wait maybe other civil servants.

Shure there is nothing so good as self regulation.

What are the consequences, we have seen insider trading in this country with nothing done to those carrying it out.

We have seen tax avoidance and actual withholding statutory tax contributions by public servants with nothing done.

You are deluded if you think that people (including no doubt public servants) haven't personally benefitted from the granting of state largesse.

And there's the goalpost shift

Tens of millions to move a few ceiling tiles?

If the work is miniscule why the huge cost? If the work is major why wasn't it planned for?

Haha, trick question, nobody will ever give a clear answer for any of this scam.

The blame for this lands solely at the hands of the Government and their appointed Design Teams.

The Government forced the Design Teams to Tender a portion of this Project, get compliant Tenders back on this and then enter into a contract. The Tendered rates would then be applied to all variations going forward as this is how the GCCC contract works. They are fixed price lump sum contracts. You if you left something out or if the rates go up - Tough ****.

The Design Team should have told their Client - The Government shag off and wait till the design is complete as that is what the GCCC was brought out to do, so no matter what way you slice it up they should have pushed back and id bet my house that some where there is an email from Aecom or another telling their client (The Government) that fact.

So alot of what the media are protraying and also what the Government is happy to let out there is the big bad Contractor is at fault when in reality:

1. There was a scope change to the project - the rest of the design
2. We had a period of hyper inflation during the build phase which is a clause in the contract to legally and righfully be reinbursed for this.
3. The end user are now in the phase at looking at occupancy of the building and are making changes to suit that - more scope change.

The reality is, while BAM a Contractor and a private company are probably asking for more and hoping to settle somewhere near the figure they need for the variations are not actually ripping their eyeballs out as its actually impossible due to the type of Contract that is signed up to unless the client changes the scope.

Source: Me a Chartered Quantity Surveyor.

There wouldn't have been a new one. The problem happens then is the fixed price period ended and the Contractor would have been allowed to increase their prices for any new works from that point onwards in line with inflation.

The would also be allowed claim for an extension of time for any additional scope, to be allowed to complete that new scope (that new scope, being scope that should have rightly been finished designed before actually Tendering it)

The GCCC has a section K in the contracts that sets out what would be allowed more time on.

If this had gone ahead as it was meant to originally on the Mater site, not only would it have been a fraction of the cost, we would have had the Metro North as well as the two were linked , and children would not be on waiting lists for essential surgeries.

There is already a new hospital up and running on that site .

You want to know where the scandal is ...who benefitted from that change to St James ' ?

I am asking, I don't know.

But all the reasons given for the change of mind to the other site are laughable now .