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Summer 2023 Transfer Window - [Excluding Transfers to Saudi Arabia 25.07.23]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,210 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Some rumours of Ruben Neves leaving Wolves to go to Saudi Arabia.

    Seems like a waste of talent to move there just before you are about to hit your peak age.

    TBH I'm not surprised with him though. He left Porto (while in the CL) to move to Wolves (playing in the Championship at the time) for a few extra pounds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,558 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    What a waste is right, another Oscar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,356 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    A year left on his contract, Wolves will feel like they have won big time.

    Shame to see a 26-year-old head in that direction though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,314 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    With Bellingham at Madrid, that midfield is scary dangerous for years to come. Tchoucheni, Camavinga, Bellingham with Vinny Jr Rodrygo and Mbappe.

    Thats scary and some front 6 from the defence. Would probably want a out and out striker but still, they look sorted for years to come.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,014 ✭✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,314 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Its inevitable at this stage, if not this summer will be the next. Still have a young squad that if gel together will dominate.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Officer999


    Kalidou Koulibaly joining him too at Al Hilal. That move to Chelsea really spectacularly backfired. Turned down so many offers while at Napoli for the last number of years and the one year he leaves they go and win the title



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,211 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Not so sure it will dominate. City will still be very strong and will be strengthening with top players too.

    It'll all count for nothing unless madrid can defend too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,210 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    The Saudi PIF having an ownership stake in the Clearlake investment firm that own Chelsea makes any prospective transfer deals potentially a bit shady.

    Todd Boehly was seen pictured meeting some members of PIF recently too. Could be a handy place to offload numerous unwanted players to balance your very large FFP deficit that needs to get paid in 14 days time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,199 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Yeah, was a total disaster of a move for everyone except Napoli. They might not have had such an easy run through the league had Koulibaly still been there too, his drop off has been huge, while his replacement Min-jae Kim was consistently one of their best performers this year. Napoli really judged that one perfectly. Wonder how much of that 33m Chelsea will get from the Saudis.



  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭DiscoStew


    At the rate the Saudis are spending they could make a profit!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,241 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Mendy and Koulibaly both joining Neves at Al Hilal.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,319 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Partey and Bernardo Silva the latest to be linked with a move to Saudi Arabia... Mad stuff going on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,481 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Partey a key player in the arsenal title attempt, lauded as the best DM around. So very odd he'd be getting sold....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,520 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Wouldn’t Rice be a direct replacement for him? The money being splashed around by the Saudis at the minute, whatever fee they get for Partey would go an awful long way to paying the Rice bill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Read yesterday that Arsenal were open to him leaving. Rice is an upgrade and younger so it makes sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,481 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Rice would be wasted as Partey replacement. Rice is the Xhaka replacement imo. Rice needs to be given the freedom to attack and progress the ball, should have a DM beside him, as he has had at West Ham. At United I'd love him, to play beside Casemiro, with the ability to step in for him should he get himself suspended yet again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,764 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    Be very convenient for Arsenal to get a decent offer for him and get rid of a player with potential off-field issues..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,210 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Selling a player before he could maybe get taken off their hands wither way and lose him for nothing. Washing their hands of him at the same time. Can get an upgrade. Works out well for Arsenal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,558 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Its taking the piss.

    Getting a Saudi team to take Mendy, Koulibaly and Ziyech of their hands, and giving them north of 60m for the privilege, its tantamount to cheating.

    Its the old CM/FM trick, add a second manager and take control of Man U or whoever, and buy all your rejects at inflated prices for a quick cash injection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,356 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    That money was just resting in my account ... and I have no idea who all those random one club then retire managers were.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭klose


    I mean, you have to respect the sheer not-giving-a-fcuk these lads have with regards to transfers. Corrupt, but gotta respect it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Reports - 'Man City and Newcastle are bringing corruption and dodgy ownership to new levels in the EPL'.


    Chelsea - "Hold my beer"....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,657 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Are Wolves potentially benefiting from that in the Neves transfer basically being the ‘no it’s like that across the board’ transfer?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,319 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    There's a hell of a lot dodgy about Wolves dealings the past few seasons anyways tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,372 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Lots of getting around FFP going on with these Chelsea sales.

    Hudson-Odoi now potentially.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,273 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Multiple sources are reporting Kovacic from Chelsea to City as a done deal. £25m plus £5m in add ons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,657 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Growing increasingly nervous that Coutinho will end up being the one big name out of favour guy from the PL that the Saudis don’t take.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,319 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Havertz to Arsenal done pending medical according to Ornstein

    65 seems a lot but apparently it's 50 guaranteed with 15 in add ons. Be interesting to see how that turns out as he hasn't exactly set the world alight at Chelsea



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,274 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    A piece on the BBC says that Gary Neville wants the EPL to stop transfers to Saudi until it can be established that football's integrity is not being damaged.

    While he has a point, that horse has long bolted. With City and Newcastle in the EPL, and Chelsea's messing about and United's potential new owners, the cries of integrity from the EPL are hard to believe. Top level football is going down the drain and oil money is accelerating it but the EPL with its weak FFP and ownership tests can hardly point the figure at others. Its just them throwing the toys out of the pram.

    * I know Gary Neville isn't a representative of the EPL but he's closely associated with it and Sky Sports, one of the major EPL stakeholders, give him a prominent position to voice his views.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,319 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Uniteds second bid for Mount rejected too. All the goings on at Chelsea these days it seems




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,325 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I think 60m for mount isn't bad. English, experienced, only 24, MIA last season but he's been absolute class before that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    £60m will be a good fee for someone who'll be there for at least 6-7 years. He had a bad season last year but was excellent for three years before that.

    If his wages were more reasonable then I'd have loved him at Liverpool (rumoured to want the same as James who's on £250K) but those combined with the fee would have meant Liverpool may have missed out on a fourth signing this summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,417 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Newcastle had a 50m bid rejected for Tonali. Upped to 70m now but Milan still holding out.

    Will probably go for less but I think he is worth as much as Rice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,558 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Whatever about the shady goings on, which are undoubted at this stage, i cant stomach Neville whinging about it. The champagne socialist who went to Qatar to commentate on the world cup after denoincing it for years. And presumably will have less of a problem with them once they buy man u.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,211 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Hypocrites the lot of them.

    As long as the EPL was booming, they loved it. They turned a blind eye to everything to champion "the best league in the world".

    They have all been Man City fanboys this last few years, falling over themselves to crawl up Peps ar&e. And the treble was their final bit of ecstasy. All the while, ignoring and not mentioning the elephant in the room.

    Now they want to say they don't agree with it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    G Nev is 100% a 'do as I say, not as I do' merchant. Where did Peter Lim get the money to financially dope Salford in recent years?

    He's jumped onto the Saudi bandwagon alright, as he did the Super League bandwagon a year or so back,ans of course he's also very anti - Glazer now that he knows they're bound to leave. t's hard to take him seriously though, even though he does sometimes hit on a good point (the stopped clock method)


    While I was a fan of Stephen Gerrard on the field, he has made some strange decisions since when and after his playing career finished. However, to my knowledge, he's the only big name I've heard that has turned the Saudi money down recently.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,755 ✭✭✭This is it




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,199 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Yeah, himself and Messi (edit: and Son!) are the only one's I'm aware of to turn down big Saudi offers so far. Though I'm not sure how much those decisions were moral... certainly not in Messi's case given that he's taking a shït-tonne of Saudi money for other things - which is a bit hilarious, given that on the one hand he's a tourism spokesman, while on the other he's effectively saying "you literally couldn't pay me to live in that place for a year or two!".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭Bugatti


    And I doubt Gerrard turned down the Saudis for any morale reasons either, considering he seems perfectly ok with associating himself with the Kinahan cartel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,211 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Messi is getting Saudi type money in the US from Adidas and Apple deals.

    Helped ease the pain of turning the Saudis down..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    Messi didn't turn down the Saudis. He is an ambassador for Saudi Arabia.

    He chose a life in miami for massive money over a life in Saudi Arabia for massive money.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,273 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Edin Dzeko is joining Fenerbahce from Inter.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,319 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,210 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    And I'm sure West Ham would rather have the full fee paid in one go, rather than installments.

    I wonder which club is offering which.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,657 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    If City get Rice it is gonna be hard to take things seriously in the Premier League.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,444 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,722 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    But Gary Neville will have no problem with it. That's all that matters.



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