General British politics discussion thread

Regarding Penny Morduant, the Times columnist likes the cut of her jib. One to watch

http://archive.today/2023.06.20-200732/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/penny-mordaunt-teaches-the-tories-how-to-behave-h2c97q8w5

Another embarrassing display from Sunak yesterday. Suit jacket off - Check. Sleeves partially rolled up - check. Sincere look and claim to be in this together - check.

Worry not, working people of GB, for Sunak is ' totally, 100% on.." the rate rise issue. And, reassuringly, 'we are all going o get through this'. Of course no actual details of how he is going to help people or indeed do anything at all.

When asked by one of the IKEA workers about struggling to get a family member treatment in the NHS, Sunak replied that he has a 'really, really good plan', which involves 'being a bit clever about how we do things'!

Of course, there was the usual nonsense about trust, which was all rubbish given he can't even stand up for democracy in the parliament he is apparently the prime minister and leader of.

How the hell did the tories end up facing into an election with Sunak as their leader? He is, with each passing day, a growing disaster. I think he might actually make things worse for them rather than better

another desperate effort here

He's personable enough compared to the Tory ghouls who preceded him, but he doesn't seem PM material or a natural leader or statesman. More like a middle management type who somehow stumbled into running the UK totally by accident.

Bizarrely though, I would still rate him as a better person than Cameron, Johnson and Truss.....they were horrendous individuals: total frauds and cynical shysters who didn't really believe in anything.

It's Sunak's advisors I really wonder about, why do they keep putting him in these situations? Why not just do these "meet the Great British public" things with a government photographer and release a statement and photos, I mean they know the sympathetic press will just regurgitate it and it will reach the target audience? They constantly put him in situations where he will undoubtedly underperform, are his team really that blind to all this!

There was no open goal to look strong by voting for the report and coming out against BJ, not only did he fail to take it, he managed to score an own goal in the process. Morduant took the opportunity and did herself no harm.

It'll probably take an election or two for the Brits to get used to it.

The deal is that if the Lords rejects a bill, or makes amendments to the Bill that the Commons doesn't want to accept, the Commons can wait a year, pass the Bill a second time, send to the Lords again and then have it made law regardless of what the Lords do or don't do the second time around.

Because of technical complications relating to the start and end dates of parliamentary sessions the process can take a bit longer than a year, but that's basically the idea.

So, if the government wants to force a bill through, it can. The only thing that can stop it is if a general election intervenes and the government loses office. In theory, the new government could still use the procedure to force through the bill, but that implies a bill that enjoys strong bipartisan support, and such a bill is unlikely to be rejected by the Lords in the first place, so that rarely or never happens.

There's well over a year to go before a general election is required. So, long story short — if Sunak wants to force the amnesty bill through, he can.

But that doesn't mean he will. Considerations which lean the other way are:

• Sunak wants to restore the reputation of the Tories as a parties that favours democratic norms, the rule of law, stability, accountability. This bill does not reinforce the impression he is trying to create.
• The DUP and associated tendencies in NI are strongly in favour of this bill. But Sunak is trying to convey to the DUP the message that they have exhausted his patients, the government is tired of their shenanigans, etc, so he's not motivated to do them any favours.

So, we'll see.

BJ is still popular with those who matter though, namely the Conservative grassroots and donors.

But the DUP are opposed to the Legacy Bill. Troubles legacy doesn't matter to most voters in Britain. Nuala O'Loan believes that Labour, despite what they say about the Bill, probably won't repeal the new law if they win the next election because it would be too difficult to undo - logistically and politically.

Looks like Nigel Farage is having Bank account closed and he can't open another one.

I've no particular interest in the bloke but it's odd how this can happen.

https://youtu.be/EVBFMp4JW-s

As usual that is only true if you only read clickbait conspiracy headlines.

Nobody closed a Garage bank account and nobody denied Nigel Garage a bank account.

Nice to see he is going full Katie Hopkins though.