General Irish politics discussion thread

Which could not be disclosed at that point for procedural and legal reasons. I'm not supporting RTE or Tubs in this cock up but getting the truth out there takes priority over swift justice. AK 47 may be right in that RTE will have drop all these independent contracts. The only downside of that is, are you stuck with a turkey until they reach 65?

If you think the board is there just to look pretty then you will believe they didn’t lie. They signed off on the accounts.

I happen to think they are there as guardians of licence/taxpayers money with oversight powers.

They didn’t do their job here and need to stand aside until all is investigated.

Technically they did when they signed off and submitted the accounts.

Afraid to say Board of Directors are given information on a need to know basis. Senior managers may have decided the Board were better off, not knowing. It also would be a management operation and not come across their view. Directors sign off on accounts having been given the ok by the Auditors and senior management, namely the CFO and DG. It may or possibly should have been discussed by the Chairperson and the DG. A Chairperson would have very regular contact, almost daily with a CEO.

Maybe, but that doesn’t mean that they actually lied.

Calm down. Nobody is hanging at dawn.

They should be asked to stand aside until an inquiry is over.

Minister Martin needs to make sure nobody obstructs a proper root and branch inquiry.

Clear the pitch, stand down the board and executive and send in independent inquirers.

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The minister and her dept. take charge.

This is a good analysis of the issues;

My main concern is that removing the Board might be seen as lancing the boil, whilst no really solving the issue. As the article above says we have a bit of white washing and continue as before.

What are the back of an envelope calculations on each episode of the LLs? 25 shows per year. give Tubs €375K for his LLS and €150K for his radio work. €15K per LLS.

Sounds like something from the mob. The contempt they have for the general public is sickening. I don't see how this can be rectified with a few sacrificial lambs. This suggests something far deeper: a culture that is rotten to the core.

I agree that it is premature at the this point to call for the Board to step down. However, they appear to have taken their eye off the ball and not asked questions.

The posters on here calling for them to resign or be fired for lying to the public don't appear to understand company law or the facts that are known to date. It is just the usual hyperbolic response.

If the CEO and CFO kept these arrangements from the Board and effectively knew that the figures being given to the public were lies, they were misleading their own board, and may face criminal charges. If they told the Board that as well as the salaries from RTE, the presenter(s) were getting extra commercial income and the Board didn't ask questions, that is a matter of competence of the Board and just shady practice from the CEO. Depending on what comes out, either the CEO and CFO were breaking the law (or sailing close to it) or the Board was incompetent. We don't know at this stage, but if it is the former, and there is a trial, we will need witnesses from the Board to testify on the issue. All of that means there is not information at this point to call for the Board to resign, but it is not necessarily ruled out in the future.

Time for action like this. Forbes being allowed resign without committing to be questioned is the last straw.

Stand aside the boards and send in independent auditors.

It will be interesting to see if PAC can get this through the Dàil or if it will be blocked

The Irish people rejected a chance to change this in a referendum.

The system set up by givernment to give cover and to avoid accountability swings into motion.