Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

No, it's really not all we need to know.

Users are waxing poetic about biology and science but not applying any actual rigor or scientific analysis!!

So you are saying there is no scientific analysis to saying men are faster and stronger than women in general?

There are millions of data points in athletics and other Olympic individual sports for a start. Hundreds and thousand of world class athletes male and female have competed in the same events over many decades and the winning male time, distance, height, weight lifted etc is almost always 10-12% better in the male division. That's why we have 2 separate division in every sport where strength is a factor so that females have a chance to win amongst their peers and have and equal chance of winning medals and sponsorship.

It's also why males and females do not compete against each other in combat sports.

Having it any other way would just deny any female from having a chance of making a career in sports.

Because elite well trained men run faster, jump higher, throw longer and lift more weight than elite well trained women.

No woman has ever run a 100m time that would be considered world class time for man or even of standard as to qualify for an Olympic games or world championship in the male division. Ditto 200m, 400,m, 800m, 1500m, 5,000m 10,000m, Marathon.

No woman has ever swam a time that would be considered world class for a male or even of standard as to qualify for an Olympic games or world championship in the male division.

No woman has ever jumped a distance or height that would be considered world class for a male or even of standard as to qualify for an Olympic games or world championship in the male division.

No woman has ever thrown a javelin, shot putt or hammer a distance that would be considered world class for a male or even of standard as to qualify for an Olympic games or world championship in the male division.

No woman has ever lifted a weight that would be considered world class for a male or even of standard as to qualify for an Olympic games or world championship in the male division.

Etc, etc, etc.

I don't think this can all be considered an anomaly given there have been millions and millions of attempts at all the above. There must be some fundamental reason why these results keep on happening

Yes, the women's world records in all of these events would not qualify a male to compete in the championships.

Here are the qualifying standards for the upcoming world athletics championships:

All of the male qualifying standards are significantly better than the female world records*

*In the throwing events/shot putt, women throw lighter objects and in the hurdling events they are required to jump lower hurdles..

Thank you. I agree with what you are saying based on the 2023 world championship standard. Caitlynn Jenner, who competed in '76, did not record times that would have qualified her for 2023's men 100, 400, 1500, High Jump, Pole Vault, Long Jump, Shot Put, Discus, etc.; I wouldn't want to directly compare the state of competition in '76 with '23 for all host of reasons though either (Fallsbury flops, equipment changes, rules changes, and other paradigm shifts, etc).

The issue is that fundamental reason (the typical dimorphism of the species), doesn't always behave in a typical way for all persons.

There's two ends of it, the inclusion portion of it (anyone can participate) and the fairness portion of it (Usain Bolt 'feeling like a woman' and taking home a ton of women's competition medals). For the record I'm not against sports bodies taking even handed approaches (some have been cited here, by others, especially their sex definitions*, including the olympic body). On the other end of it I'm very much against bans. An intersex person could be assigned male at birth but that might not actually tell their life story, they might have gone on to grow up on puberty blockers.

*Just saying Men have XY and men have XX chromosomes isn't the whole story there either, There's X0 (Turner's Syndrome) and de la Chappele syndrome (male with XX chromosomes), etc. etc..

I feel like you answered your own question :)

"should not" I think you meant.

No, I have no idea to what your point is by bringing Bruce Jenner’s times and performances from 1976 into this.

Just to point out these thunderous claims about "world class (x5)" are subjective, the definition of what is world class evolves over time, as noted that women who qualify for the 2023 womens division would all have, by definition, soundly beat some of Jenner's scores (eg. 1500 m). Jenner would not qualify for the 2023 women's 1500m therefore.

My lack of knowledge of sports isn't at issue here. The issues are at issue here.

You didn't give me, the 'sports ignoramus,' all the information then. How dare I not have all the information for your arguments you haven't provided all the information for: you pointed out where throwing events and shot put were not comparable, you didn't include any footnotes that I should disregard anything to do with the 1500 m sprint (quite the opposite in fact).

It doesn't matter if it's a power or an endurance event though surely, when this is all decathalon stuff? And need I remind you the advisement I gave you about trying to defend such a huge goalpost? This is what you argued in part:

"No woman has ever run a 100m time that would be considered world class time for man or even of standard as to qualify for an Olympic games or world championship in the male division. Ditto 200m, 400,m, 800m, 1500m, 5,000m 10,000m, Marathon."

😶 So does your argument now no longer include those ditto'd events?

I'm asking you why you're retreating from your own argument that ""No woman has ever run a ... world class time for man or even of standard as to qualify for an Olympic games or world championship in the male division... [for] 1500m ..." now that I've proven that claim to be dubious?

Except every woman who qualifies in 2023 by default has attained a speed that has been previously regarded as the world class standard for men in 1976. The definition of world class is therefore malleable. Therefore the X5 thunderous argument about women being world class or not etc you gave isn't really all that thunderous, imho.

I am fully aware Jenner competed as a male.

The definition of what is world standard though is still nebulous. I think it's a pointless thing to bang about and we ought to just move on. Again I have stated I'm not against trans regulation in sport, I am against trans bans in sport. I simply think when it comes to your argument, you overegged the pudding with it and put yourself in front of a silly large goalpost.

Decathletes compete in their own races. The decathlon 1500m event is not the same as the regular 1500m event. Nobody expects them to be able to compete with event specialists.

Your argument about Jenner running slower than a 1500m specialist woman is a nonsense argument to anybody with any understanding of sport.