Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Right wing government voted in n highest gun crime probably fake news.

Suvigirl mate's say it's grand. Hard to know who to believe nowadays!

Yep there are... and you can spare me the predictable "racist!" comeback - firstly, I don't care, secondly, it's tiresome and thirdly, the accusations of a randomer on the Internet are wasted on me. It and other accusations are thrown out so much these days they've lost all meaning.

An Irish citizen (although I am presuming you meant native by the way you've phrased the above comparison) is one who has a natural right to expect the policies, resources, opportunities, and supports to work in their interests first and foremost. The latter must earn that right (legally, economically and socially) or are guests of our goodwill and charity.

As a native Irish man I fully expect politicians to put the needs of myself, my fellow citizens and our country ahead of all others. That's not to say that we shouldn't and can't help and support others too - but such help should be after we have looked after our own needs and problems first (charity begins at home if you will), and not at the expense of those things. This is a key part of the social contract we all enter into and is no different than any other country on the planet.

It's not just at individual levels either - take the EU as a whole... when it comes down to it, individual nations will look out for their own interests. We saw it during the Financial Crisis when Germany and others rapidly established a two-tier Europe to protect their own economies, and it was in fact the actions of Merkel and Germany that started us down this current path because of the notion of importing a cheap labour force - not something that's worked out too well as it's turned out, neither in Germany or in places like Italy or France or Sweden.

Immigration can be a positive absolutely - but only so long as it occurs in manageable numbers, involves skilled migrants with the ability to immediately support themselves and integrate positively into their new community, and so long as it includes effective means to identify and reject/return those who are trying to slip through the cracks, or who misrepresent themselves or are outright lying about their eligibility, or who cause social or criminal problems while they're here.

We don't live in a United States of Earth where this fantasy of no differences, no individuality or nationality, and no either/or choices exist. We don't even live in a United Europe, and increasingly we don't live in a country where the democratic will and legitimate questions and concerns of citizens are respected, heard and acted upon. Social media platforms and vested interests (NGOs and political) aside, the polls show overwhelmingly that people are increasingly concerned about the direction this country is heading in - and rightly so by the way. It is the role of citizens to act as watchers of such things and protest when they feel their interests are being compromised. As I've said before, politicians and Government work for us, NOT the other way around and (as we've repeatedly seen in our short national history) the members of those parties need to be reminded every so often when they lose the run of themselves - as has happened here again.

This is reality, no matter how much you might not like these facts. Again as I've said before, I'm afraid ideology, virtue-signalling, and cries of "-isms" just don't do well when they run into that hard, unforgiving wall of reality and indeed the ordinary people behind it.

And EU funds.

http://www.integration.ie/en/isec/pages/opmi%20funding#:~:text=The%20Government%20is%20also%20using,asylum%20and%20integration%20projects%20nationwide.

Haha no. We do contribute but we would be doing that anyway. So now we are making use of it

Our students now are nearly more vulnerable than the asylum seekers. How is a student supposed to be able to work enough hours while studying to be able to afford these high rents that are being charged. Of course, they actually have to find the accommodation first… Meanwhile, the asylum seekers are placed in accommodation, all living expenses covered and a weekly allowance, all while being able to work and earn a wage after 6 months, if they feel like it

Yeah I’m at a loss to be honest…

Hopefully one of the policy backers in here will be along soon to explain why the asylum seekers off the plane are more deserving than young citizens whose parent’s taxes are providing all of the money for their children to be screwed over.

I’m more than happy for us to provide help to asylum seekers, but not at the expense of our own citizens.

Your reply is not in the tone of my response which was to batman oh or was that you??

It is a rude angry response.

I might reply if you repost politely.

By the way ignorance is not something people who are inclusive are accused of, the opposite in fact.

Nor would I categorise other posters on the opposite side of the discussion as ignorant and expect a reply.

Goodbye now.

I think this one will be the straw that broke the camels back up here. It's being reported and discussed on the local radio stations and local newspapers/media everyday. People are furious here and rightly so.

I naively thought that when they gave the purpose built student accommodation over to house refugees in Letterkenny that those blocks were not in use and weren't needed for students. I couldn't have been more wrong.

I think people see through the bullshoite now and know that many local people are being displaced to house 'refugees', especially the Phoney Freeloaders.

People's hearts have just about bled out at this stage and I can't wait to vote this government out and get this **** show off my chest to my local canvassing TDs to be.

Students, elderly care house residents...what local is next to displace!!!???

Citizens rights are really just about voting rights etc. All people living in a country are to be treated equally. Thats what human rights are all about.

No matter how many of you seem to think that other nationalities should be treated as second class people, it will never happen. All our human rights are defended in Ireland. you all benefit from living in an equal society, we are never going back to 1950s Ireland, thankfully.

Tip. Read up on Human rights and equality.

All of Ireland are not in favour of LGBT communities. And all of the cultures that you believe to have disdain for LGBT, don't.

You do not have to integrate to live in another country, it would be better for you if you did, more opportunities, perhaps more fulfilling life. There have been posters here over the years claiming exactly that, that in order to integrate other people's must lose their culture and take on the Irish culture, not that any of them could actually explain what they meant!

It's not a contradiction to state that people should be allowed to integrate, but should not be forced.

I don't believe any particular subset of people should be housed before another. The only people who should be housed are people that cannot house themselves. So completely based on need.

All housing should be mixed equally, private, social and affordable.

When you say "vote this government out" what exactly do you mean? Who are you going to vote for?