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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,556 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,768 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    I don’t think laundering will be the issue - rte is given money to do certain things - they did it this way to hide where it was going from everyone. Not only did they hide it - they paid handsomely to have someone else facilitate the hiding and transferring.

    Potentially embezzlement - but we will have to see what is found next if anything.



  • Registered Users Posts: 55,453 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Huh? Surely whether you know or not is irrelevant. If it’s money obtained illegally then it’s laundering. Claiming you didn’t know won’t get you off



  • Registered Users Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Again, judging by the amount of likes my posts have reviewed, it’s clearly more than me who finds it intriguing.

    Also, not all of the abuse has been removed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki




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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,128 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I subscribe to Amarach Polls. Some results they sent me.

    Do you think trust in RTE can be restored? 16% Yes 72% No

    Should Ryan Tubridy have corrected the record himself? 75% Yes, 16% No

    Should TV License be optional? 63% Yes 25% No

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Tubridy’s reputation is shot. Interesting to see the knives coming out in RTÉ staffers as well. No way back I reckon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,768 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    Sure those are just people who want to stifle real debate and put us under the Jackboot of socialism!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭One Who Waits...


    Wouldn't be one bit surprised to see him back on air in a week or two reading a very carefully worded apology with the usual "error of judgement" guff. That's the Irish way.

    Not saying it will happen but I wouldn't be surprised.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,560 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    The procurement angle is actually the key angle and it's why Tubridy's supporters who argue that "oh it's not his fault, he wouldn't have known" are flat out wrong.


    RTE aren't paying Tubs a salary. They're outsourcing a part of their production to a specialist company who only provide one service - sliding a toad faced nonentity into your studio to talk about how great they are. This means that they should be going through a procurement evaluation, and the total cost of that procurement should be documented. The fact that multiple parts of the overall cost were hidden, is a fundamental problem.


    Tubs' problem is that he's the director of the specialist company. So he is not allowed to claim that he didn't check up on anything. That's literally the job. And he can't claim that the discrepancy between "my sole client claimed they paid my company X and I know for a fact my company received Y" is something that was a low-key issue that was easily missed on line 1,698,232 of a transaction report that was 10 million lines long. The fact that he publicly commented on the figure X that was reported in the media is his admission that he was aware of both X and Y. So he's got no credibility on any of this stuff at all.


    So if the procurement process was bent, that a problem for RTE. If Tubs was ensuring that his company was concealing income, that's a problem for him. If both parties are culpable in a scheme to funnel public money into back-channels, that's a problem for both.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭avfc1874


    NK must have told some great b.s story of how popular Tubs is,

    for rte to give backhanders to tubs to get him to stay is deluded, have they not listened to his show



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,281 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The only way I could see that happen if it he donates the money to charity or some RTE arts fund or somesuch.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)





  • well it’s Ireland so unless they killer someone for (or with) the money, then of course no, no one will go to prison here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    This in theory is what is supposed to go on .... but it does not a lot of the time .... meetings happen but a lot of them will be just coffee meetings with not much substance .... prob mainly during the August period and coming up towards the toy show ....

    As regards rehearsals .... these are not at all necessary for interviewing the likes of Padraig Harrington, Imelda May, Vogue Williams, members of Westlife, Dermot Bannon and other such regulars ... and most certainly not for the drivel he talks on that radio show ... a lot of 'rehearsal' means writing out questions on a card with all questions for guests strangely being the same! .... the main rehearsals would be for the toy show and that is prob what he wanted the extra money for ....



  • Registered Users Posts: 55,453 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I’d be very surprised. Years ago, maybe. Not in today’s climate. He is gone.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,281 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Excellent post, deserves to be stickied. He's a director of the company involved in the chicanery, it's not just him 'on the books' of NK say.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,919 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Totally agree. I have said similar upthread.

    The idea that any one of these vastly, vastly overpaid RTE 'stars' could command even a fraction of that salary elsewhere is actually laughable. If it wasn't for the fact that it's just not funny for the ordinary Joe Soap who pays to keep them in the style to which they have become all too accustomed.

    The toy show musical was another example imo, of money being flung at a dud, but what matter? Nobody seemed to be accountable for it. It was only public money, no worries, plenty more where that came from seemed to be that attitude.

    I am glad that this debacle has at the very least, brought their questionable practices to the surface.

    I hope that there's huge reform at RTE after this. Including slashing of salaries for the people at the top. They are simply not worth it. Not one of them, imo.



  • Registered Users Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    I’d say it was more NK telling RTÉ how great Tubs is rather than anyone telling NK





  • Don’t get this line of thinking either. Like him or don’t fair enough but this nonsense about him having “no talent” or being “no great loss” is absolute bollox.

    Of course he had talent. He was able to broadcast, live, every week (and day ig on the radio) to millions of us. That’s a flipping talent mate.

    Sorry but there’s scarce few people who can do what he does. Yes, he was boring, he was a bit dry and he definitely tried too hard, but he had a talent or skill or whatever you want to call it.

    Entertainment is a talent & Tubirdy was an entertainer. But like all of them he had his audience. I wasn’t part of it & I guess you weren’t either, but end of it all the guy had a notable talent and that’s why they kept him around.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 965 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Yep. As much as I hate to say it, I think there is a way out of this for Tubs but it would very much go against his personality and over inflated ego to go down that route. But it's basically a wholesale, full on, throw back the curtains, apology and acceptance of wrongdoing with a declaration of something charity related. We have to remember he's not looking to return to the Late Late Show as the high priest of goodness and piety and keeper of the national virtue. He's simply trying to keep some kind of career in RTE going whether that be a graveyard radio show, a travel series or something else which will allow him to cream 200k off the PSB.

    I think after a a spell in the wilderness where this debacle is allowed to disappear into the dim and distant past, it's a possibility. But it does require Tubs to do something he has never done.........ie have some real backbone and cop on. So If I was to bet, I'd bet against it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 55,453 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I agree with your points. And although he bugs the bejaysus ouha me as regards his talents, he still has talent.



  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 5,879 ✭✭✭hometruths


    I sense most of the criticism of his talent is not that he had zero, but rather the level he did have was not worth such vast sums of public money.

    i,e - the salary was justified on the grounds that there was a risk he'd be snapped up and have his head turned by megabucks elsewhere if not RTE, and we should have counted ourselves lucky to have him on our screens and airwaves.

    that's total nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 5,879 ✭✭✭hometruths


    And, to add insult to injury, he portrayed himself like he was doing us a favour, taking a paycut was some sort of benevolent public service!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭avfc1874


    I suppose you think Darcy has talent as well 🤔





  • After working with RTE since he was 12, I’m sure there was more to keeping him than his irreplaceable talent.



  • Registered Users Posts: 55,453 ✭✭✭✭walshb




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭Karppi


    RTE are guilty of using the three cups and a ball game to pay RT on the QT (see what I did there 😀) and RT is guilty of having the ball in his pocket all the time.





  • i don’t think these guys have talent, I know they do.

    Look maybe in your head exists a world whereby useless people get big jobs, but in actual fact it doesn’t work that way.

    rather what is happening here is someone you’ve perceived to be useless because you don’t like them was given a job (25 years ago since he started broadcasting) but those are entirely different.

    He shouldn’t have gotten that money of course but that’s a separate issue.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭mrslancaster



    Is that what's called creative accounting? 😳😳.

    No matter whether RT is a good, bad, or indifferent presenter and whether his salary was deserved or not, the 'barter' contracts used by the rte commercial department as a vehicle to top up payments sounds very suss.

    The head of that department Geraldine O'leary who organised those contracts has questions to answer, think I read somewhere that she also resigned back in march around the time RT announced he was leaving the LLS.

    That barter account was totally separate from the finance/accounting function. It would be very interesting to see exactly how that worked - a separate bank account not included in the financial statements??



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