Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

You are claiming that all refugees are living off social welfare. That is opinion without any proof.

Yes, a lot of things I post are my opinion. However, as I pointed out most refugees from the Balkan wars went home, so while it may be just an opinion, it is an educated opinion based on previous refugees.

What extra money is being spent on direct provision? As far as I am aware, the budgets for housing and immigration are completely separate. Like budgets for justice and health. If justice don't use their budget, it isn't just given to health, you're aware of that though, didn't you say you worked for government somehow?

I pay over 1800 euro a month in rent. I go to the gp same as everyone else.

I don't know where you're getting the I'm alright Jack attitude from, I have no such thing. I will buy a house if I see one I want, I will stay renting if I don't. I don't need big mansions or fancy houses.

Now why wouldn't I be affected by waiting lists?

And all people put pressure on the housing market, we should stop all foreigners coming here taking our houses.

Do they house asylum seekers in private homes? Thought it was just refugees.

I would if I had my own place, absolutely. I can't right now as I don't have the room. an aunt of mine took 2 Ukrainian families into her house, she has lots of room though

And here we go again! Bang on cue :)

Have you? Have you housed or fed any homeless people?

Am not asking seriously before reply , but how is it ok to be asking anyone that ?

This is good post . Agree mostly .But it is not about refugees which is the subject of the thread .

A Visa system should be operated for migrants , based on the needs of the country .

Refugees don't come here on visas.

Ireland does have a visa system, and many non-EU and non UK people spend thousands of euros and a lot of time and effort applying for these visa's (eg. People from India, China, Iran, Russia, US, Canada are examples that come to mind). We're asking, what is the point of a visa system when you can fly into Dublin without a passport and get automatic entry ?

Yawn. I'm not young. I have owned property before.

The housing crisis is completely the fault of government policies over the years of buying private homes to use as social housing, selling existing social houses, and building very little social housing for decades. And that's just one small part.

If young people cannot get on the property ladder, then we need to halt all immigration into the country, until such time as we house all the Irish first.

I think it’s a legitimate question. If you are in support of tens of thousands of unknown people arriving into the State then the question needs to be asked where are they going to live, how will they be supported and what funding needs to be allocated towards accommodation/supports.

The government called on the people of Ireland to offer suitable rooms in their houses to those arriving here but it seems only a very small number of private citizens are willing to do so.

I haven’t housed a homeless person but those numbers are relatively stable and can be managed, though they should be managed better. Modular homes should and could offer some sort of solution to the homeless also but we need a lot more supply due to the huge demand.

Good idea and then we can all agree that we are all hypocrites.

It's not a legitimate question to ask anyone.

Homeless people quite often need a lot more support (mental health, addiction treatment, medical etc) than a private household can offer. It’s not a suitable environment and there is no government scheme in place supporting private residents to house homeless people.

The call was made by the government to house Ukrainians in private homes due to lack of other options & resources.

But their taxes do pay for the social housing and welfare allocated to them. Is it unreasonable in a democracy to expect some input into how the government allocates and spends that tax money?

It is not a legitimate OR appropriate question.

You have summed it up there in your answer . It's not within everyone's gift or ability to house anyone homeless or refugee.

Some people , yes , but landlords or others who have done, have been accused of money grabbing by posters here.

So what's the next statement going to be .." you are a hypocrite" as per the poster up above ? " You have loads of money you can afford to be liberal " as another said .

Well if that is the case , let noone discuss homeless people unless they go out and look after them themselves , never mind the issues , there are supports available as you know ..

You're the first person to say' homelessness is stable ' on the thread! Lol.

Let noone talk about violence unless they go out and help the victims of abuse and rape.

The next person who talks about home improvements for disability or accomodation for students will be asked " what are You doing about those issues "?

You see it's a bit ridiculous isn't it ?

Likewise nobody here knows what anyone else actually does ? ( Apart from one or two who can mindread, it seems)

How do you know if people are volunteering or not on an anonymous forum ?

Frankly it is none of your business , and I question your right to ask people personal questions like that on a discussion forum.

Asylum seeking is a different situation to people migrating for work . Whether you think that is what they are doing or not.

You don't apply for a Visa if you are seeking asylum . You are talking about apples and oranges here .

Asylum seeker = refugee , once granted, hence the title of the thread ^^

We would all like to have the Australian system of visas here for migrants. Or better still we'd all like to go there ourselves!

Also funded via the EU ...did we not talk about this yesterday, or wait the day before, deja vu ?