Ionity charging network

ChargePoint.

I had about 3-4 cards for Ionity that I never used, and then proves blew up…..

first time I ever used Ionity was with ChargePoint card and worked flawlessly each time.

Not sure to be honest! I have an eCars card and EasyGo app if I use those networks.

Chargepoint works with Ionity anywhere in Europe though. I’ve used it in Lithuania & Ireland..

I think they pre charge your card in €20 blocks… so if you use €22 of charging, they’ll charge you €40 and you’ll have €18 in credit with them… you’ll only be charged €20 again when you go over the €18 credit you have etc..

and that’s fine by me… I just like having a card over an app..

Yes, I just signed up.

A benefit I was not aware of is access to ESB DC at 55c/kWh

I thought there was always 4 there and the dummy boxes are to show they are parking spots for Ionity customers waiting to charge.

CityNorth Ionity has the same setup (with just 2 chargers)

Ahh okay. My mistake. I was sure there was more in the past.

There's not much difference in price between ESB & Ionity now anyways, and as you say it's convenience

Depends where you're going, Tesla rates are cheaper than Ecars, Ionity, Applegreen etc. different on each charger, and have a peak time around 5pm, cost around 50c vs 75 at Ionity for example.

You might get cheaper Ionity with some annual subscription that makes sense if you're using it a lot. If you're just doing ordinary mileage then charging at work should cover practically all your driving. Have a look at a better route planner (app/website) and you can try the different cars over different routes.

In 3yrs with a Tesla I've used Ionity twice (had to try 2chargers both times to get one to work and some were iced) and Ecars once in Mayo, fine but slow. Tesla suits all my other routes. Never had to wait, never had a broken charger, car always charged and ready before the humans.

But if you only drive(for example) Monaghan to Donegal and back then Ecars is your only option.

Speaking about Tesla in particular, the best option for public charging is the supercharger network. This is exclusively for Tesla and doesn't require any RFID card or anything, just plug in and go

I would recommend getting a home charger if at all possible. As well as being much more convenient, it's often a lot cheaper to charge your car

Since you don't have a driveway, you'll probably need to speak to either the management company or council that owns the car park where your car lives. In general, councils will just say no but people have had some success with management companies

For the work chargers, you'll want to stalk them for a while to see how busy they are. With the popularity of EVs and price of electricity, they could be quite busy, especially if they're free to use

Living on public charging can be done, there's several people here doing it already. You'll want to look at an app called Plugshare to see what chargers are available in your area

I'd also recommend looking at an app called A Better Route Planner, you can use it to preplan some long journeys you might take to get an idea of what's in store

In general it's pretty easy with a Tesla though, they've the benefit of the supercharger network plus they can use other networks

Interesting, in the We Connect app for VW they have a lot of chargers down twice

For example my nearest ESB charger is down as two locations in the same car park, so it looks like there's two AC chargers beside each other rather than one

Edit: Actually it seems that AC chargers are double counted but not all DC chargers

I think you’ll need an app of some sort….

I don’t believe they accept cc card tap to pay..

If you download the Ionity app you should be able to select a charger and pay without registering

I just tried it myself and got all the way to inputting the card details without registration

I think they put something like an €80 hold on your card though, so make sure you've enough on your account

I used my brain instead😂.

Stopped in sandyford this morning and took on enough juice to get me there and back!!

I think for the app you need to go through all the steps before plugging the car in

Here's my stock image from the Ionity thread, I have it saved for when this question comes up 😁

Black markers are stations that are going to be added by 2025... supposedly

There's no details on the exact locations, the only one reasonably certain at the moment is the one near Belfast which looks to be at the Kennedy center

I suspect the council will get either Ecars to EasyGo to install the DC chargers and will probably scatter them around the city on public parking spaces since that means they're on council land, no messy leasing agreements needed

They (Ionity) won't be done in 6 months that's for sure

Anything more than 4 chargers requires planning permission. And putting in new 1.5MW grid connections will likely require new transformer stations which also requires planning permission

One of the reasons so many charging stations use a single 50kW unit is because they can just use whatever infrastructure is already there and don't need an upgrade. That's why I suspect the council will do that and just put a bunch of chargers either on street parking, or on some council owned car park (or both)

However if they just asked Ionity or someone to come in and open a HPC hub that would be pretty awesome too

I believe the planning exemption is up to 4 charging spaces can be created from existing parking per site

So you can put an Applegreen style site in with 2 HPC chargers without requiring planning permission (I believe this is what most of the current AG sites have done). Three such sites would give you 12 fast charging spaces and be a decent offering for Waterford IMO, as long as they don't put any of them on the Applegreen near the M25 with the crazy shop owner)

But you can't create new parking spaces where they didn't exist previously, hence why I think the council will use it's existing parking spaces

At a very minimal level, they could put 3 sites with 2x50kW triple head units and 4 parking spaces each. This would (badly) fulfill the requirement of 12 fast charging spaces since you'd have 12 spaces which can theoretically access a fast charger (as long as the other space is using AC or empty)

As I've said, I'm hoping Waterford CC have a bit more ambition than that

Applegreen Holycross Service Station Butlerstown Co. Waterford. Planning for 6 charging stations and site works for the same still pending, awaiting further info now. https://www.eplanning.ie/WaterfordCCC/AppFileRefDetails/2360156/0

I think this is the station where the owner blockaded the ESB charge point, right?

Ionity are putting a hub there???

Holy crap that's going to be some show. Can't wait to see how the Germans try to figure out what to do when he cable ties the plugs into the chargers again 😂😂😂

Or when the owner tells the tourists coming off the ferry from Rosslare and driving the Copper coast that they're driving a "pedo's car" again

Or the now famous picnic table

What were they thinking? 🤦‍♂️

I just hope there's something in the agreement saying that the owner gets fined if he blocks the chargers in any way

I think the definition of charging points applies to the ability to charge one individual car, not the charger itself, although I'll admit I didn't see it spelled out in the document

I mean you could create a 16 car hub using 4 chargers since some of the Delta units can have 4 plugs on each

This would seem to be a pretty wild interpretation of the existing exemption

I thought it was a black Model S that he said was the pedo car?

I wonder will they make him move his murder shed 🤔