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Irish Cricket 2023

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  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    This was arguably the best preparation Ireland have ever had for a qualifying tournament. CI themselves have said the last two years have been spent with an eye on this tournament, they've played plenty of cricket this year, they've played in Zimbabwe this year, they have a fully fit, match fit squad, they're playing mainly associates. There is literally no excuses for the worst qualifying performance in Irish History.

    How does Balbirnie defend this, how does he find positives, how does he keep his job? What does Malan actually do on the training pitch. Why is Josh Little so poor for Ireland and so good in franchise cricket. What has happened Paul Stirling? Why does Delaney bowl 10 overs one game and none for the next 3? Why did McBrine suddenly start opening after a career never opening?

    If CI have any interest in being in a competitive country they'd rip up the current plans and start again. Drop Stirling, Balbirnie, Little, Hume, McBrine for the T20 qualifiers and try and blood fresh talent. The likes of Italy, Austria and Denmark should be no threat to the Wolves, so throw some of those into the squad. There's a losing mentality in this squad, that needs to be replaced.

    This squad would easily qualify and actually win some games.

    R. Adair, Doheny, Cummins, Tucker, H. Tector, T. Tector Campher, Dockrell Capt, Kane, G Delaney, M. Adair, D Delaney, Mayes, Foster, Humphreys



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Not even a contest in the end. While there's no shame in losing to SL the defeats to Scotland and Oman in particular shouldn't happen. World Cup chances gone.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Second successive World Cup that Ireland have failed to qualify for, so not a major surprise there as having the likes of the West Indies, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka in this tournament was always going to make qualification difficult.

    The huge problem is that this team is a million miles away both in talent and temperament and there are no quick fixes. They have no idea how to win games and are now consistently losing to Associate nations. Changes have to be made obviously.

    wicorthered is correct in his assessments and the questions about team selections. Another one is why was Barry McCarthy playing his first ODI in two years today for instance when we have been scratching around with terrible spinners all winter and poor international standard bowlers like Hume and Hand. Questions, questions, questions, but no solutions.

    Weighing it all up, when Ireland got test status, it was a proud moment but years later, we can't play a Test match at home for financial reasons and were then belittled by the English media when we did get a game. Test matches have taken a huge hit with the growth of T20 cricket and now only really favours the big 3. Our domestic matches are a million miles away from international standard and by getting Test status our players can now no longer play county cricket and that has hurt everyone in their development.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Another day, another dollar, another loss.

    Reported by cricinfo that Balbirnie considered it very disappointing but you’ve got to move on. I wonder what that means?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Problem is the likes of Barry McCarthy isn’t or shouldn’t be an international cricketer. He never looks the part but when you get to the nitty gritty of his performances statistically you see that he should be nowhere near the team.

    61 wickets in 38 ODIs…. So averaging 1.6 wickets per match. 20 wickets in 19 T20i’s. Close to just one wicket per match.

    He lasted two years at Durham, zero impact then back to the Leinster Lightening.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    McCarthy is actually a decent wicket taker. He's 8th fastest in history to 50 ODI wickets, Adair only got his 50th today in 38 games. McCarthy's big issue and why I agree he's not international class, is he is unable to bowl an over with out at least one boundary. That's the issue with every bowler we have. They simply cannot build pressure, there's a 4/6 every over. When batters tee off they wilt



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,821 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    He was also talking about pride playing for Ireland, you'd think if he had any real pride in Irish cricket he'd step down as captain at this point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    He’s not, apart from his overall stats …He took 2 wickets in the 3 match series vs the mighty Netherlands in ‘21. Shipped a heap of runs too. That’s not ‘decent’… being fast to a landmark in a snapshot of time doesn’t trump consistency and isn’t a barometer of overall ability…

    he’s not a good wicket taker. He is extremely average and inconsistent. if the pitch isn’t seam friendly he offers us SFA….

    I’d advocate a change in captaincy… I can’t listen to Balbernie’s BS soundbites constantly downplaying poor performances and bad results …. He is the Ireland captain not a PR spin doctor… people pay money and spend time going to watch the team. At least have some credibility when you have a bad day and say it as it is…

    “ disappointing but you’ve got to move on “… how insightful….move on from Balbernie, quick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Ladies made a good start Vs West Indies . Bowled a few too many loose deliveries the last while though. WI 86/1 from 18.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Ladies now behind the 8 ball, desperate for wickets, too many gimmie deliveries now… fûck. WI girls unloading, 135/1 after 26…. 300+ on the cards.. Deep Cover and Long Off boundaries getting peppered.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Whoops. Wrong thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    201/4 now 109 from Matthews, some player, think she's a track athlete as well, she'll be bowling later, and usually picks up a few wickets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Chasing 298, 21/0 from 7



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Prendergast gone. Poor shot to a poor delivery, a long hop and she finds deep mid wicket who doesn’t have to move…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    An awful lot of good shots, finding the boundary fielders instead of the gaps now… a lot of this WI bowling isn’t that special…girls need to take advantage.

    7.95 needed an over… starting to struggle



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Only 2 down, but struggling to keep up with the rate



  • Registered Users Posts: 583 ✭✭✭iffandonlyif


    we can't play a Test match at home for financial reasons and were then belittled by the English media when we did get a game

    What are the financial reasons? The Pakistan test sold well, no? And what’s the belittling referred to?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    125 from 83

    but scoring 2 runs off that over.

    on the edge of being too big a get… need a big over..

    as I type we lose another.

    a tame giveaway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Not enough ambition. Content pushing singles for the last few overs. Punished a bad delivery to the boundary as I type but they need to do a lot more then wait to punish the bad balls.

    McMahon gone. Given out caught behind despite clearly missing the ball by about 6 inches…. Ball nowhere near the bat… bizarre…. A very vocal appeal obviously influenced the umpire.

    desperate run out now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Closed on 239/9, lost by 58



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dohboy



    The Pakistan test left CI out of pocket by €1m, I'm sure I read somewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,595 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Stirling and Balbirnie putting in a performance with the bat at long last, but all too late of course



  • Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭InsideEdge


    So you've gone from slagging off the Men to slagging off the Women's team now (they are not ladies or girls, it's the Irish Women's Cricket Team). This is a very young team sent to get experience playing a top class international team to help them improve so they don't lack ambition, far from it. The only way these women will improve is playing more matches like this - they face three tough games against Australia at the end of July and this tour will help them immensely.



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Fair play to the two senior batsmen, they've turned up when all is lost. Sums them up really, losers mentality, great under no pressure, crumble under the slightest pressure. Stirling's 100 might be the most pointless 100 ever hit in an Irish game!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Useful in terms of carrying on as is, finish on a high etc Sure all is well in the world and forget the rest etc etc

    I guess reality is that without major and unlikely changes, we should quit this test playing status and go back to playing and competing with teams at our level. We don’t have the depth of players, the funding or the facilities to play at the top table.



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    What an awful bowling unit this is. UAE tearing the openers apart again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    With a kinda dubious wicket, batsman hit on hand and run out while signalling for help. All count in international cricket but don’t think we’d too happy other way around?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Saw that, he was hit and stood there, and spirit of the game Balbernie took advantage, all that sporting shite is only talk, its a bad look when a captain who can't hit the ball off the square starts that type of thing, the Afghans are always at it, they are the worst by miles, but that's a 50/50 type of wicket, not helped by that annoying cheerleader Niall O'Brien on commentary, we all know the rules, no need to scream and shout



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    No. Im objectively commenting and criticising them when I feel it’s warranted….. and I’ll refer to them as ladies, or girls. Thanks.

    it’s not a young team exclusively…It’s a team with a great mix of experience and inexperience, age and youth.

    the oldest member of the team 39, youngest 17 or 18. Several players over 30 or around it.

    It’s a sport, people are entitled to express an opinion. Positive, negative or both.

    Their play / tactics lacked ambition. The scoreboard reflected that … they hit just 16 boundaries in 50 overs… an average of one boundary every 3 and a bit overs…..not ok for test matches, not ok in an ODI…if you or the team or anyone close to them can’t take honest criticism, not my problem. That you can’t differentiate between slagging and criticising / discussing ….says all I’m afraid. :)


    in other news great to see the lads thump the UAE… some innings from Paul Stirling. 162 from 134.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,595 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL




  • Registered Users Posts: 583 ✭✭✭iffandonlyif


    I do, too, but he was a bit much for that run-out.

    I’m not sure how I feel about the run-out. On the one hand I’m a traditionalist and find it very annoying that batsmen move down the pitch to chat, and drinks are brought out during stops in play. Part of the challenge of batting is that once you’re in, you’re on your own, and although I definitely don’t want to see an epidemic of Mankading, I think players should be in their crease at all times during an over.

    The UAE batsman can hardly complain having played the shot out of his crease and not returned. It’s almost disrespectful to the game to play it so casually. But it’s not how Ireland should want to take wickets and the cheers and celebration were frankly pathetic. Balbirnie can’t but have seen as he was lining up the stumps that the batsman, for whatever reason, was not running. It would have been dubious if he was tying his shoe, but the fact that he was injured makes it doubly so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    He's alright, but is a cheerleader and everyone knows that was out, but it was a sneaky one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Peter File


    Ireland India August T20's on sale now.

    €40 for adults and €15 for kids.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Irish ladies have lost 4 wickets inside 5 overs and it could have been worse. Being thoroughly outclassed. The pitch and the opposition has them absolutely bamboozled 26/4.

    even struggling to put the bad deliveries away.

    and then a joke of a wicket.. 36/5. Leah Paul gone fishing.

    Abandoned. Ireland get their first point after 8 matches due to the abandonment.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Ireland to face the USA in a 7th place play-off semi-final tomorrow. Hopefully the ignominy for those playing should ensure they aren't in this situation again the next time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    That's a pointless game if ever there was one, sport will eat itself, it has reached saturation point



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Peter File


    We put them into bowl and they are 37/2.

    Little dropped for this game.



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Judging by how it's going so far, the ignominy might not be limited to just playing this game. Losing an ODI to the USA, would be yet another new low!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Comfortable 6 wicket victory in the end. Ireland finally finding some form when it doesn't matter a jot.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Nice to win, but when you see Oman make 318 and be very competitive against Zimbabwe, that's where Ireland should be, also the Dutch gave Sri Lanka a rattle but fell short, probably should have won, USA in a 7th place semi final is a bit of a joke, surely better than that even with this side



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    When the pressure is off.. boom… a load of runs scored and opponents bowled out inside 43 overs for less then 200.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭towger


    I bought tickets but email that came is almost blank with no tickets. Did anybody else get this ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I got a pdf attachment containing the tickets with my email.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I just witnessed a West Indies bowler bowl a 12 ball over vs the Irish girls… a host of wides and no balls… the last delivery was as wide as the very widest delivery but the umpire obviously just got fed up calling wides thinking the over would never be over… which is pure rubbish umpiring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Irish girls with the standard collapse… looked set for a score close to 280/290.

    currently 160/8. 🤨

    3 girls in double figures and the middle order just doing nada. Thank fûck for Gaby Lewis….75* now the only help she got was from Canning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Girls dropping regulation catches and bowling a lot of extras.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Peter File




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭towger




  • Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭InsideEdge


    You'll probably get a response today - there were issues with the ticketing system but CI are now emailing everyone who bought a ticket and attaching a PDF.



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