Ladies footballers and camogie will play 'under protest' over lack of progress on welfare

Aside from the rights or wrongs of the whole issue, what does "playing under protest" actually mean ?

The caption is a bit misleading/incorrect.

the full press conference.

From the weekend just gone.

And in Cork - AGAIN !!! Another episode of having both codes on the same day !!!! Wtf ???!!? 😣

Is it a case of the 2 Associations saying "we're not changing the fixture, they can" ?

The LGFA have had their say , but the Camogie Assoc say nothing ??

Nothing about Devil’s advocate at all, don’t worry. There is no place for Dual players anymore.

Frankly, I’d also question really if some of the dual county players are genuinely in the top 20/25 of both sports in their county. For me it would be considered an absolute freak occurrence. Two completely separate sports and the dual players are in the very top bracket in both in the county?

It's hard/rare enough to be a dual player in the GAA.

It must be almost impossible to be a dual player in two different organizations.

Similar to playing soccer and rugby in parallel

LGFA have there tickets prices at €20 for Adults and €5 for kids over 12 for these group games that are going on at the moment. €10 for students.

For a organisation that should be trying to promote their games these prices to me are to high to try and get causal fans in the gate. They were up against the Galway/Mayo game and Tailteann semi finals last Sunday and three other games on Saturday. This weekends games have the All Ireland Quarter finals competing with them for viewers over the weekend.

They are never going to succeed in getting decent crowds to there games the way they are going with the timing of games and ticket prices.

I feel they should only be starting there championship now.

No need to dress it up, you are insinuating thats women dont deserve it then?

Use 'devils advocate' as a mask if you like, but thats what you are saying.

"they argue along the lines of "we put in the same time and effort as the men, so we should be treated the same"

Not in their released statement do they.

Full statement from the Senior Inter-County Camogie And Football Panels

Today, representatives of the senior inter-county camogie and football panels are here before you, representing our respective teams, as well as our fellow players from the intermediate and junior grades, with their full support.

We find ourselves in a situation we never wished to be in, echoing the experiences of our soccer and rugby counterparts in recent years. Regrettably, we feel, that our National Governing Bodies do not want to hear our real concerns, so we're speaking directly to you.

We will play the remainder of the 2023 championship under protest.

Our representative body, the Gaelic Players Association, released the State of Play Report two months ago, which shed light on significant issues within our training and playing environments.

The main request has been well-documented; we asked the LGFA, the Camogie Association, and the GAA to engage in discussions with the GPA to develop a charter designed for female players to be implemented in the 2024 season. This charter would establish minimum standards for our collective welfare.

Upon the report's publication, the GPA privately contacted the three National Governing Bodies, seeking collaboration to achieve an agreed-upon charter. Our aim was to work together towards a positive outcome that would make us all proud.

Despite initial positive indications, the GAA has since declined our proposal. The Camogie Association, however, did request a presentation to be made to their Ard Chomhairle, which took place last week. Regrettably, the LGFA has not deemed it appropriate to respond.

Their primary rationale is that they prefer to complete the integration process before initiating a charter for female players. Despite the evidence presented, they expect us to patiently endure the treatment of second-class citizens.

We are no longer willing to wait. It has been over 18 months since integration was declared a priority and voted in by the membership of the three Associations. While the National Governing Bodies claim to be listening, it is evident that they are not truly hearing us. Urgent issues affecting player welfare have been brought to their attention, yet they refuse to even engage collectively to discuss solutions.

We as players are not receiving the respect we deserve. Therefore, do not expect business as usual in the upcoming weeks and months.

In recent months Cavan's footballers and Kildare's camogie players have shown us what potentially lies in store for all of us if nothing changes.

We are not willing to wait for 56 more individual battles to arise.

We stand here together, unified. And together, we will remain resolute in our pursuit of a better future.

Maybe read through it fully before paraphrasing things, and playing 'devils advocate' .......................................... 🙄

They will still need to learn how to generate funds though they can't expect the GAA to be their cash cow.

The orgniasations have zero interest in merging. They only say they want it for the possible positive PR from it.

GAA do not want to start leaking money for a non-revenue generator. Only way they'd make something off Ladies' Football/Camogie is by absolutely ploughing into Marketing for both.

They may not have used that particular argument in that particular statement, but are you really saying you've never heard a female player make a case along the lines of "we put in the same effort as the men, so ......" ?

Furthermore, whether they're asking for actual equality with the men in terms of facilities and entitlements, or just improvements on what they currently have, fact of the matter is that it still can't happen without finding extra money somewhere. And between them, they still don't have one proposal about where this extra money is to come from, other than hoping it might seep down from a different Association altogether.

And now we're back at the very nub of the problem again.

TBH - i cant remember many of them saying that. We have quite a few intercounty players from our club, and they do put in a lot of effort - county training/matches , training in gym and running alone, so while they do put in the time and effort , i cant compare with how much a mens intercounty player would.

Our Club players, do the same training as any of the (junior) mens teams , but the club senior panel would train more than the mens teams.

GFootball - not worth mentioning really, as once you get out of minor you are finished - - they do a bit a junior , but are whipping girls (boys) for other counties at that level.

As i said before, there was 44players on an U14 panel this year here representing the county at a 'blitz' 🙄 - travel there and get hammered by anyone they play - Pointless.

But obviously , thats not the case in most other counties.

tbh I wouldnt even pay €10. Maybe €5 at a push.

for a comparison on ticket prices, Ive been to a few Bayern Munich womens professional soccer matches and for the Bundesliga its €9 for adults, €3 for kids.

Even for the champions league knock out game in the allianz arena it was €10 or €15 and for members/ kids/ pensioners/ mens season ticket holders you got a fiver knocked off that.

I presume thats cross subdisied by the men to an extent but indeed, to increase the poularity you need to keep the ticket prices very reasonable.

A bit like Sean Quinn throwing money into Quinn Direct from his other business's.