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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,699 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Sounds like the relationship is starting to go down the coercive controlling route on your end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭Bobby_Bolivia


    Why would you be openly putting yourself into that position? There is no paranoia, and further gaslighting people into thinking you either have to be extremely paranoid/insecure/have trust issues to not be comfortable with it is absurd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭Bobby_Bolivia


    It's relentlessly flirting and constantly openly flirting as related to the behaviour described in the post by Suvigirl.

    Did you read that? Or were you just frantically searching for the next way you could try to score some internet points.



  • Administrators Posts: 14,332 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    CreadanLady has been forum banned for 2 weeks. Please do not reply to their posts as they have no right of reply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,204 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    'openly putting yourself in that position'? seriously man, you must be really really paranoid about your missus cheating or something? Either that or really really young?

    People go out on nights out and get chatting to folks of the opposite sex. It's completely normal behaviour.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,204 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I'm replying to the OP's situation, not sure why you're not and going off on a tangent that doesn't relate to the thread at hand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭Bobby_Bolivia


    And again, if you read over my posts, which you clearly haven't as you literally keep proving - I've specifically spoken about chatting, even in a jokey context being absolutely fine and expected. And having an objection to that, I've said, would obviously be controlling.

    Again, further gaslighting that I must not have experience of life or relationships if I would not be comfortable with my partner flirting with other men on nights out. Is that the only tool you have - because you have tried the gaslighting multiple times now.

    Chatting is clearly fine, as I have already stated. It was the use of the terms "craic and banter", which I suggested clarification on from the OP, because they had a strong connotation of flirting which I would not be comfortable with. And again, there is nothing wrong or wierd, or inexperienced, or anything else, with not being comfortable with your partner flirting on a night out. As I've also already stated, which you no doubt didn't read either like everything else, it may speak to compatibility issues down the line.

    Because clearly, some people are very comfortable with it. Good for them.



  • Administrators Posts: 14,332 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    @o1s1n and @Bobby_Bolivia back to advising the OP please.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    OP your post makes me deeply uncomfortable and raises major red flags with me as a woman. It sounds like you and your partner are not compatible so for both your sakes please end it.

    This is 2023 and I find your attitude dated and definitely verging towards controlling. She sounds like a much freer spirit, please don't try to change her.



  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭Wezz


    So to be clear we are not talking about flirting? You just have a fear that alcohol and talking to men will lead to flirting? And that flirting will lead to cheating?

    Is this based on anything, does she have a history of cheating, have you been cheated on in the past?

    Look, you either trust the woman or you don't. Alcohol doesn't make people cheat. Talking doesn't make people cheat. I think this is a you problem.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,889 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    You need to stop being so obtuse and say whether your girlfriend has ever actually done anything to make you think she might avail of that opportunity? Cause if she's just having a friendly laugh with the odd randomer on a night out and you're putting together 2 and 2 and getting 10, then yeah, this is a you problem.

    Post edited by Dial Hard on


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,039 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    It's still a step away.

    You seem to have trust issues. That's what you need to address, not her having some innocent chat.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    You forgot inclination.

    It sounds to me like you don't trust your partner of 8 months. Has she given you any reason not to? Would you talk to a woman on a night out? You know a chat and a laugh kind of thing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    You are wrong she can talk to other people she's friendly and fun as long as she doesn't ignore you she should be free to talk to anyone as long as she doesn't flirt with men or she does not spend more time with other people than with you. You sound very controlling but if you can't agree on this find another girlfriend .of course if she spends all night t as talking to another man that's not fair to you .it would be boring going out and just talking to your partner she's being honest with you there's a difference between having the craic and flirting with another man



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,204 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Seriously, this just wreaks of insecurity. Have a bit of faith in yourself and the fact that she's chosen to be with you.

    If she does go out, has a drink, 'banter' and an opportunity comes along - which she takes, then you dodged a bullet early in a relationship because she couldn't have thought very much of you to begin with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    OP my parents were happily married for 33 years & both of them, at varying times, engaged in harmless flirting with members of the opposite sex. In fact one of my mam's best friends (who is a man) is a notorious flirt but is also the most devoted & faithful husband to his wife. Flirting does not always lead to something else unless the people involved want it to.

    I chat to guys when I'm out sometimes with my friends. My other half I'm sure chats to girls. At the end of the day though we're coming home to each other and not them. It's chatting. And yes alcohol may be consumed but that does not always lead to anything other than potentially a sore head in the morning.

    And as someone above said - inclination is needed for anything to develop. There are always opportunities but it doesn't mean they're always taken. That's the difference.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 jc100179


    Would I speak to a woman, sure. If a hen night came in as mentioned earlier, I sure as hell wouldn’t be in having the craic and drinking with them, exchanging banter. I’d find that highly disrespectful



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭crusd


    It is possible to have the craic with someone of the opposite sex and still be in a committed faithful respectful relationship. On what planet is it disrespectful to enjoy socialising with people?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭nachouser


    Work nights out in a pub with a bunch of the lads?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭Wezz


    Right so its not longer just banter, its now banter and alcohol

    Tell me this, is banter ok if she's sober. Is alcohol ok if she's not talking to anyone.

    You sound like you've already made up your mind that cheating is a foregone conclusion and I suspect your issues will only grow if she gives into any of your wishes.

    You don't trust her so do the decent thing for both of you and call it a day. You can't live your life always waiting for something bad to happen and she shouldn't have to change her behaviour to manage your insecurities.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 jc100179




  • Registered Users Posts: 14 jc100179


    You don’t think getting drunk, having fun and craic increases the likelihood of attraction with the opposite sex?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,278 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Sorry, the OP doesn't want replies from people who think flirting is ok!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,278 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    You do know people can even be attracted to other people when they have partners right?

    It's what they do that counts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭crusd


    Were you when you were single incapable of socialising with female friends without lunging on them?


    It is also possible to be attracted to someone and not do anything about it. Most normal people find multiple people who are not their partner attractive, without ever considering doing anything about it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 jc100179


    Of course, but you add alcohol and that attraction. It’s a recipe for trouble and putting yourself in that position is disrespectful



  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    Get your ass to therapy my friend... this is not a healthy way of having relationships, and as numerous have said in kind and unkind ways, it's towards the path of coercive control....

    as much mental gymnastics you want to do to try and justify your viewpoint, it still boils down to 1 question...

    Do you trust her or not?

    Now, there is such a thing of emotional cheating etc... but I don't even think we're even there yet...

    Do yourself and her a favour, park the relationship for know, talk to a therapist, smash around with some strange, and come back to relationships when you have a healthier perspective...

    Not having a go, speaking from a viewpoint of someone who was the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭crusd


    To be honest, that you believe this says more about you than anyone else.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    Are these harmless chats or is she flirting with them?

    She’s free to go out and do what she wants but if she’s going out and flirting with other men, well she’s either going to do something or she’s prick teasing them. If she’s doing it in front of OP then it’s rubbing his nose in it. When some drunk guy makes a move on her and won't take no for answer, is she expecting him to rescue her? 

    My advice OP would be to ask her what's going on and if you don't like it explain it from your side. You may need to move on.

    Also are you "seeing her" and you are both free to see other people or are you couple.



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