Strange New Worlds S2-E3 'Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow

That was fine, I guess. Pacing felt a little slow and I'm just not sure those two characters are strong enough to carry it really, which is an unfortunate thing to be saying about Captain Kirk. New guy is lacking something.

When is Anson Mount back from paternity leave? :)

Fine episode. Not great, but okay. I do like La'an, but at this stage into the season I'd like an episode with all the crew together doing some form of Star Trekking.

It was fine for a timey-wimey ep. Nice gag about Toronto filling in for NYC for filming purposes.

Things I liked:

* loved the little montage of La'an having to resolve funny little issues we never saw Worf having to deal with. Would have loved to see how he'd deal with a noise complaint against Riker , or indeed him.

* loved how Kirks and La'an conversation in the appartment kind of mirrors Picard and Guinans in Yesterday's enterprise, Kirk rightly asking if he should even be helping her given his reality will cease to exist, and whatever changes are made may lead to him never being born. With her mention of Sam being alive in her reality and the fact her Earth still has Sunrises swinging things back in her favour.

* I appreciated the twist in the end where the Romulans target wasn't a cold fusion reactor but a T2esque mission to kill Khan as a child, Making it a play on the situation in Guardian on the edge of forever . In that episode Kirk had to let Edith Keeler DIE to stop her leading a peace movement that would have kept the Americans OUT of ww2 , in this La'an has to let Khan LIVE to drag the world INTO a war so destructive it will lead humanity to unite in it's aftermath.

* what's the significance of the close up of the watch at the end I wonder .

Things I didn't like :

* the chase scene where they pursue the van in a red Mustang was slower then the Book of Boba moped gang chase. If they can't get the permits to put the boot down in these scenes they really shouldn't bother.

@AMKC Above from the linked wiki, so puts them in 22/23 time.

Middling episode but it was ok, sort of thing you get away with in a 20+ season but not in a 10 episode season with 2 slow episodes behind it to start with

And was it just me but the sound was all over the place, hard to even understand what they were saying at some points to a sudden change to a higher frequency

Okay episode. Quite plodding for the most part. La'an was excellent. Paul Wesley was okay but I just can't see any "Kirk" in his performance. Would have worked better had he just been "generic male character" imo.

Not sure if La'an was the reason Pelia became an engineer or Pelia was just playing dumb.

Yeah, it was fine, definitely a hefty step down from the previous two - but it was still grand, and they've earned the right to have a few cheap and less than stellar ones.

That plan of strolling around a huge city with a watch till the hands glowed... by rights they should've been at it for weeks before they found anything 😅

The Kirk guy... as a character and actor he's grand, reasonably endearing, and if his name was James Flirk I'd be all up for seeing more of him. But it's an actor and performance nothing at all like James T Kirk. I really don't understand that casting choice, and the writing for him isn't very Kirk'ish at all either. In a show that gets so much of that side of things so right, it's an odd misstep.

I was thinking at first that Kirk was a bit too similar to the real Kirk. I don't mean in portrayal but just how the character acted considering how cold he was with Spock. Was like it was the Mirror Universe but then he talked to La'an and all was good.

But they are connected. Soong in PIC 2 was working on project Khan and Soong in ENT was the "father" of augments. So Soong was working in the Singh institute.

What's stupid is this idea of Soongs across the ages like some sort of mad genius Cut Me Own Throat Dibbler.

Liked this episode, thought it was gonna be a "Yesterday's enterprise" kind of thing at the start but they went in another direction. I enjoyed it all the same, right up till the end that is. The "Bad guy" was atrocious, as intimidating as a pair of pink roller skates.

What made the episode decent was just the La'an and not-Kirk interactions and relationship... the actual plot and baddie were all pretty weirdly chosen from start to finish. Like, they only came across the baddie by the complete and total coincidence of having seen them take a photo. This really should've been reversed to have the baddie come to them, secretly aware of who they were - could've used the idea they later used with her getting rid of the cops for them. Had something like that happened at the bridge it's an easier sell.

The watch thing is obviously nonsense. And then the actual performance of the baddie... she fully acted like a fringe nutjob, which makes sense, as that's her cover. But then once its revealed to be a Romulan plot - she's still largely acting like a fringe nutjob, instead of totally dropping the act and becoming suddenly cold and Romulan. Just a lot of odd choices in this one. It's almost like they were on a major time crunch to knock out an extra episode with no notice and had to bash something together asap on a budget

This is the second episode in a row with ties to the Eugenic Wars. Could they be setting up something about it?

Though it is strange they took 2 episodes away from what we assumed was the season's arc being set up in the first episode.

Yeah, I wouldn’t be holding my breath for big season long arcs to develop. Rather I think there’s just a lot of things happening in a “it’s a big universe” style of thing, and they may or may not come back to any of it again.

Remember Sybok? No, neither have they.

I've been noodling this episode around in my brain for the last day and a half. I'm really disappointed about not-Kirk (H/T to @~Rebel~) ... like, he seems to be mostly for comic relief here and a bit of eye candy for La'an.

There's also some major inconsistency with his abilities ...

1. Can't use a freakin revolving door ... fine.
2. Does the "Goes backwards shtick" before driving off" ... 🙄 fine.
3. Then out-of-nowhere, executes a perfect J-Turn! 👀

The rest of the story is moderately interesting and well done.

I'm thinking that there will be some significance to the watch and I think it might be ...

How did I never think of this before.

Michael is Sha Ka Ree. Not the fake god Kirk defeated but the real one.

Ah fcuk. I forgot about that. And I was happy to have forgotten about that.

I quite liked this episode even if it was a little slow. I remember complaining when Picard season two was out that it's too easy to have them prevent a disaster to fix the future but having to ensure WWIII or a similar dark chapter of history happens would be a better story and we kind of got that here.

New Kirk is fine just not as Kirk. Maybe if we get a scene if him and that sparkly eye 60s lighting the used to do he'd seem more Kirk-like

The temporal investigations agent wasn't called Tedgogt or some anagram thereof was she?

I hope they get back to full crew adventures next week. Or maybe Bradward will show up

I made a joke about it being unwatchable because of "I'm from space" but SNW has earned the benefit of the doubt by now.

It was fine, most importantly for me, and unlike the bottle episodes in Discovery (or to an extent some of the holodeck nonsense on Voyager) it still felt like Trek.