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Irish Under-20's 2023

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    #1262
    supernova5
    Registered Users Posts: 662 ✭✭✭supernova5


    the state of the pitch at this venue kind of makes a lottery of these games,


    What do people make of the mulletheaded Baby Blacks so far after 2 games?



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    #1263
    Le Bruise
    Registered Users Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120782599#Comment_120782599

    Just coming on to say...how can they have so many games on the one pitch? It's in pieces at this stage.



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    #1264
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120782561#Comment_120782561

    McIlory added mid year I think after leaving school. Was a weird one that.



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    #1265
    johnh6767
    Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭johnh6767


    Gigantic game by the Irish team in treacherous pitch conditions, absolute mud bath , Forward dominated game and our pack was just enormous in their achievements against a widely pre match praised Aus pack. Front 3, phenomenal, back 5 equally impressive, very courageous stuff by back line too in very tough field play. Both McCarthy’s, Gleeson, Gunne, Gavin & Devine all stand out in a stand out performance. Squad rotation v Fiji now key as some of the main stay need recovery time having put in brutal effort over 2 tough games . Good to see Sam P kicking coming back, can’t be easy kicking on a marsh land



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    #1266
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭Shehal


    Firstly phenomenal from Ireland today, even more impressive as it was a different kind of win. Not as much flair but rolled up our sleeves and bludgeoned them upfront which was needed in the conditions!



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    #1267
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭Shehal


    Holy **** **** but with 30 minutes to go Italy lead South Africa 31-12 and have their bonus point!!!!


    And Georgia lead Argentina 12-0 going into HT.


    Group C looking like a very interesting pool!



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    #1268
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 17,172 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Was very impressed with Gleeson, Gunne, McCarthy and Prendergast.

    For the latter, I do feel like he can be a bit static when receiving the ball. Makes it obvious that he's going to pass it on. But he has great vision and can pick out a pass that catches the defence out. Against Oz he spotted the rush defence and played a wide screen to completely cut them out.

    If he can add a bit more movement to his game I feel like he'll go to the very top.

    https://twitter.com/brettruganalyst/status/1674352994312232960?t=XMbenNxeLePU6hBbJ1tIKA&s=09




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    #1269
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭Shehal


    SA are clawing their way back now, 2 converted tries and they are back within 5.



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    #1270
    PMC83
    Registered Users Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭PMC83


    Jaziz, well done Italy!



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    #1271
    supernova5
    Registered Users Posts: 662 ✭✭✭supernova5


    fantastic result for Italy, well deserved, they have a beast of a forward division, 6 Nations teams showing up really strong



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    #1272
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭Shehal


    Georgia beat Argentina 20-0 making group C very intriguing. If Ireland can win the group they will definitely be 2nd seeds.



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    #1273
    ulsteru20s
    Registered Users Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭ulsteru20s


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120783101#Comment_120783101

    I think that many people usually can’t be wrong and a lot of people love this guy, but i still liked H Byrne and Crowley more at u20.

    To me, that ‘static’ thing is probably overrated as a problem but also the hardest thing to learn as a lot of that is athleticism.



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    #1274
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭Shehal


    I wonder will Ireland be allowed call up a back? Rory Telfer yellow got upgraded to a red meaning he will likely be suspended so Ireland only have enough outfield backs to field a starting backline, someone like Lynch or Cawley is going to have to wear the 23 shirt.



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    #1275
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Pitch is really terrible for an u20 WC. Great win for Italy. Only saw the last 20 mins or so but they were bossing that SA pack which is hard to believe. It is a very open tournament which is great to see.



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    #1276
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    France would be the favorites in my opinion. Delighted they hockeyed the kiwis. If we don't win, I hope France do.



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    #1277
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,805 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120782698#Comment_120782698

    Sometimes I wonder if that was for the alleged sins of other people, I hope not, but it crossed my mind at the time.



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    #1278
    SaoPaulo41
    Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Do Ireland have to win with bonus pt and hope Aus beat Eng? Or will a bonus point win do it for us regardless of other game



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    #1279
    SophieLockhart
    Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭SophieLockhart


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120784693#Comment_120784693

    If we beat Fiji we're guaranteed the semis because no other runner up can get 12 points.

    We'd have to meet France though.



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    #1280
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    That French pack is very lightweight and small!

    Yikes



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    #1281
    SaoPaulo41
    Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120784754#Comment_120784754

    Thank you



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    #1282
    SophieLockhart
    Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭SophieLockhart


    In the very unlikely event of Wales beating France with the French getting two losing bonus points, we might then need a bonus point against Fiji.



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    #1283
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    England thoroughly thumped Fiji. Can't see us putting up that kind of score.



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    #1284
    thebaz
    Registered Users Posts: 13,692 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    good win from Ireland - seams an open tournament - great results for Italy and Georgia too - Italy rugby is progressing (slowly)



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    #1285
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    I think we're fecked sideways going forward. Cooney out! Telfer probably out! Hadden injured! Q uinn with a concussion. The players are falling by the wayside.



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    #1286
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120784467#Comment_120784467

    A couple of people suggested it at the time and I didn't want to believe it, but McIlroy played a preseason game before the lad who got in ahead of him and the talent gap was so obliviously huge that it made me reconsider. Probably better off keeping that genie in the bottle anyway.



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    #1287
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users Posts: 10,490 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785595#Comment_120785595

    What sins are you referring to?



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    #1288
    PMC83
    Registered Users Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭PMC83


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785264#Comment_120785264

    Its a lot, but we did put 30 on Oz which helps. Let's see of England can get by them first.



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    #1289
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,584 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786328#Comment_120786328

    The table hasn't been updated on the world rugby site , but as it stands England would be topping the group on the basis of having a better P/D - +44 vs. Irelands +20

    Looking at the schedule , Ireland kick off before England vs. Australia so they'll have to go out looking to build a score and close that Points difference , but if Australia can at the very least prevent an English Bonus point, Ireland would top the group if they can get a BP win of any kind against Fiji.

    The availability of that Australian Prop looks like it could be pivotal - If they go up against England with the front row that played most of the game against Ireland they will be in serious trouble.



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    #1290
    Deilf
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Deilf


    The Paarl pitch is in tatters after that Italy v South Africa match - surely they can't use that next Tuesday? Another three matches on it.



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    #1291
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    It's somewhat absurd that the England game starts 30 minutes after the Irish game. If points difference is tight (and it's likely to be the deciding factor), England will know exactly what they need to do in the closing stages.



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