Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Hi. Here is some FACTUAL, and can easily be verified, reasons why it's time to stop the open door policy.

I teach immigrants. I live in Ballaghaderreen. I teach Algerians, Iranians, Georgian, Ukranian, Nigerian, Kosovan. Men and women, an entire spectrum of work experience.

Last week, another 500 Romani people arrived in the town. Again, zero consultation with anyone. All public services in the town told to basically suck it up and support them.

There are now more asylum seekers than native Ballaghaderreen people ( and I'm including second generation Pakistani families who have been living here for years) currently resident in the town.

With one exception, the Ukrainian folks, All of the new arrivals are searching for work. That's their number one priority.

So, there is now a top-heavy population centre in a small rural town. There is nothing to do here. Teenage A.S. kids hang around the woods and side streets every night, bored. This boredom resulted in the harassment of the local Parish Priest, who had to move back to his home place out of town because he "felt afraid". Local women and some men, do not walk or jog, as they used to, anywhere in the town.

I could go out right now, with a brick, and smash every single window of every parked car, right up to, and including, the Garda Station, and not a thing would happe.

Why?

There are no Gardai in Ballaghaderreen. The station is open for a few hours 1 day a week. And on court day.

The above situation is repeated in countless towns around the country. The locals were not consulted for a specific reason. That was that the politicians knew that there would be pushback from local figures.

There is a train coming down the tracks that politicians and folks on the fringes do not seem to be noticing. ( think about this...I'm very much on the left and I'm a teacher, and even I'm very worried).

All its going to take for this train to crash is one serious incident by any asylum seeker, against any resident Irish person. That will be the straw, I think.

In towns where there is little to no police presence, vigilantes will appear and the results will be catastrophic for all concerned.

Driving a rented Hyundai suv around the town for an hour second day is not going to cut it.

When I asked why more gardai could not be deployed from castlerea, we were told that they were all to busy dealing with major assylum-related issues in Longford!

The whole system is a powderkeg ready to explode.

99% of the asylum seekers that I encounter are genuine, scared, people.

That 1%, though, in every town.

Doesn't take much to overwhelm services. I've seen it happen in Jordan and in Syria.

Placing asylum seekers into rural towns with low Irish populations and little services, without any consideration nor consultation, will prove to be one of this nation's greatest mistakes.

While they may not be housed in the same as the general public, but it isn't just about housing. It is the overall infrastructure, childcare facilities, medical facilities, public transport, etc, etc.

Placing large numbers of people in a place that is remote offers those same people very little chance to integrate and build purpose in their lives. As it is they may be far removed from the cultural norms of Irish/Western Europe, and be alone. Stranding them away at the fringes of society is only going to lead to resentment and radicalisation. All the while the stretched infrastructure has to accommodate more people than it can handle. Waiting times for Hospitals are already bad, ambulances are even worse!

We nneed to reevaluate this situation.

The number of former refugees and those with leave to remain are much higher over 30 years. In recent years the trend has increased . Then take into consideration those who have had children . Eg Most Africans here would be former asylum seekers .

https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/what-we-do/workplace-and-skills/employment-permits/statistics/

This absolutely infuriates me, especially after seeing the video of the violence in Drogheda of people outside their free social housing causing trouble in broad daylight. All of a certain ethnicity let's say.

I guarantee those people haven't worked a day in their lives nor have made any positive contributions to society but have been handed a golden ticket to a free life.

Then we have people like my family, friends and colleagues who did everything right but can't afford to rent any decent in this country.

We are certainly heading for even more trouble in the not too distant future. France II, I can't wait to live like that. Not.

Every town, city and village being turned into a shoitehole!

It's probably from some random Facebook group and isn't in Drogheda at all.

Fertility rate would be a lot better if working couples were actually able to get somewhere to live.

I know a number of couples in their late twenties/early thirties putting off getting married because they don’t want to be in the position of having a baby while having uncertain outlook for housing. If working people could get actually get a house together like previous generations could you’d 100% see an uptick in our fertility rate.

Not even to mention the singletons in their 30s still stuck at home. Hard to be active and successful on the dating when you can’t have people over or back after.

i find it very hard to understand why this guys problems with people looking at him a bit funny is more important than the safety of females he may come across

He clearly poses a threat and will continue to do so

surely it is rational that this person be returned to his country of origin rather than e facilitated here.

I mean what is the positive side of allowing him to live here ? and if there are some how could thy possibly out weigh the negatives

Man who raped one woman and tried to lure another into car jailed for 10 years – The Irish Times

He sexually assaulted a woman in the UK in 2014. (In guessing his asylum was denied there) he came here and was granted asylum in 2018. How in the name of God can you be granted asylum when you are a danger to women? Are there no background checks done?

He says he is blind yet was driving around looking to rape women.

Jesus. No wonder predators are coming from the UK here to claim asylum.

Is a deportation order in place now once he is released? Or will we like I fear just let him stay .

It's no surprise a below market rent apartment would be highly sought after!

Particularly in a housing crisis, not sure what this has to do with refugees though.....

With 5000 applying would it possibly indicate that the country is full? If you had kids finding local creche, school, doctor etc is kinda useful too.

He should not have been here to begin with, asylum for different eye colour, what ever next, our entry system is a joke

Charlie Flanagan was the MoJ when he was granted refuge.

Your "basic math" calculations always seem to exclude the inconvenient numerical calculation of 5 million people fleeing westward from Ukraine after the outbreak of war, on top of all the other refugees around the world, and the inflection on global movement of refugees with eased travel restrictions post-Covid.

You go on as if this all were some long-standing permanent policy of the Irish government — completely ignoring the context in which it's happening and seemingly on the assumption that the State just intends to keep welcoming more and more refugees until the country collapses.

Your 'basic math' is just that — basic — and without appreciation for complexity and nuance.