Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

Where do they go from here? Well any normal person would take a step back and listen to what people are saying. Stop the whining and just keep their heads down for a bit. Maybe after a while come back with a new project that is actually helping people and not a self serving pity party.

But this is Harry and Meghan, so next will be blaming everyone and everything but themselves for the situation they are in and doubling down on being victims. They seem to be incapable of taking advice and just fire anyone who says things they don't want to hear.

I'd say she'd struggle to get attention after the initial flurry of headlines about the divorce.

Unless ... dun, dun, dun Harry is a racist.

Harry has admitted to and displayed many behaviours over the past several years that could definitely be used against him in this way. Drug taking, excessive drinking, dangerous behavior like forcing his driver to speed through a tunnel to recreate his mother's death etc, all don't look good when it comes to custody and divorce settlements.

I think they should listen to a few Pulp songs tbh.

They should buy a 3 bed semi d, Harry should do a plumbing apprenticeship and he could charge a premium to have a real life Prince unblock your toilet. Meghan could do restocking the fridge TikToks and in no time they could upgrade to a 4 bed.

In the words of Sham69 - “C’mon, C’mon, Hurry up Harry, come on! We’re going down the pub.”

I’d say Harry fell head over heels in love with Meghan quite quickly. That can happen if there is love bombing happening so would be unsurprising. The infatuation being so strong that any red flags would be dismissed or outright ignored to the point that if they were even pointed out it would result in such people being discarded of like his friends or in the case of William in telling him to take things slowly deemed suppressive, unsupportive.

She has no credibility though, all she'd do is set herself up for ridicule and she doesn't seem to take kindly to that.

I think they'd get a lot further if they had the ability to occasionally laugh at themselves, hold their hands up and admit they'd gotten it wrong. The constant persecution complex and playing the victim is not doing them any favours.

I’m all for a balanced discussion about H&M as are most rational regular posters here on the thread (actually all rational posters are- it’s the irrational ones that aren’t 😛) - and I’d hate this thread to be an echo chamber- but let’s face it, it’s very hard to defend H&M these days - yep these articles are nearly a cut and paste of each other, the ones I’ve seen- they start with how delighted they were with Meghan coming in scene and then down hill from there- we can’t ALL be wrong….can we??? 😀

Haven’t been following these two for a while, but are there murmurs of separation? I initially gave them 3/4 years post marriage. Think they’re 5 years in at present.

I think there’s a lot of posts across different media speculating that ultimately they’ll divorce but not before whenever Harry is next due for an inheritance 😀

The fact that they’re no longer a “double act” and estimates are that both will be plying different trades or at least promoting different things certainly enhances that story- My own view is that Meaghan can’t stand on her own at a high profile level without Harry-but Harry has proved he’s a fish out of water without the backing of his previous role in the RF- so who knows how it will pan out- if they truely love each other then money and fame shouldn’t come into play, but the cynic in me says this whole relationship was based on a false ( or maybe unrealistic is a better word) expectation of Meaghan and the reality is far from where she wants to be right now.

I don't understand how people can recognise the fact that a person's persona can be heavily influenced to look good but not to look bad.

The fact is we have no idea what these people's true personalities are because they are constantly being spun in one direction or another for one parties interest or the other.

In some respects a real Harry is so much better than a fake Harry, even though he may not be as likeable in the short term- Princess Anne was always depicted as aloof - today she commands total respect- consistency is key for the RF- if you’re one thing one day and another the next, people can’t relate to that ie the British Royal followers- they want to know the measure of who they’re dealing with before they wave those Union Jacks and buy the souvenir mugs

You'll note I said the early days - before she started bullying staff, demanding tiaras etc.

The press offices were not handling their PR at the time. They were being given a 32 million quid wedding not because they deserve it but because they were (and were expected to continue being) working royals. If you’re a working royal then you are doing it as a representative of the monarch. They can't be everywhere so some fill in for them i.e. We wanted the Queen but will settle for Prince Edward.

Palace PR is effectively PR for the monarch with it spinning things in support of those who agree to do the gig because it ultimately benefits the monarch/monarchy. Look at Andrew as an example and ask why he isn't a "working" royal anymore. He was basically fired.

If you’re a working royal then you, presumably, abide by the rules and template/blueprint outlined by the monarch. Kate, for example, clearly does that. It is the (celebrated) service model exemplified by the Queen. So if the Queen at the time abided by the never complain/explain model of dealing with a hostile/aggressive media then the expectation is that those representing her do the same. So if the tabloids are acting the bollox as they invariably do in pitting people against each other then you rise above it and wait for it to inevitably pass. More important things going on in the world than some tabloid gossip about an emotional flashpoint about tights from years ago. And the best part is that if you don’t agree with all that, if it isn't your cup of tea, if you think it is stifling, that it is a fish bowl like existence then, brilliantly, you don’t have to do it. You're only expected to do it if that is what you want. Bear in mind though that if you decide not to do it then, shock horror, the perks get lost. No security while on duty, no outriders, no A listers lining up to meet you etc.

You can have the luxury of playing X box all day living off current and incoming inheritances until you figure out what you want to do with your life.

Bulling accusations were the most damaging to them. And child bulling (Charlotte) would be the worst, so they had to do everything to show it as a lie. As Nayite said why they didn't fight that one in court?

They were very lucky that they were dealing with RF, who don't fight back. Otherwise they could have followed the case of Amber Heard. One side of the story is always much "rosier" that the objective truth. But even with this retouched one side they managed to harm themselves significantly.