Ladies footballers and camogie will play 'under protest' over lack of progress on welfare

With all due respect, the inability of the Camogie Association and the LGFA to better coordinate their fixtures is a completely separate issue from CEO of the GPA, Tom Parsons, suggesting publicly that the GAA should use some of its income to increase the travelling expenses and other benefits for members of other organisations.

Furthermore, the Camogie Association and LGFA don't need to integrate with the GAA in order to better organise their fixtures. All they need to do is talk to each other more often.

Thats my point! It might be seperate, but it shows that they arent very well run, or can work WITH each other....

Why would the GAA jump at the prospect of bringing them into their organization?

They cant arrange fixtures/all star holidays/grounds without messing it up.....

I've made a similar point here before, and heard something relevant to it this week. I was at a meeting of Wexford County Board, where some of our senior hurlers spoke as part of a review of the 2023 season. One of them said that being an inter-county player involves a commitment of probably 30 to 35 hours a week, between training, group gym work, personal fitness routines, travelling, etc.

Being a dual player would then surely involve at least 50 hours a week (you wouldn't need to double up on the gym work and personal training). Put that on top of a 35 to 40 hour work week, and let's say 50 hours of sleep (just over seven hours per night), and a bit for everything else, and you really wouldn't have enough hours in the week.

It's no wonder that the days of dual inter-county GAA players are gone. Maybe it's time for female players to face up to this as well, instead of a small number of dual players expecting things to be worked around them, and affecting a much larger number of other players.

That'd be one box ticked along the way to equality!

...and to be brutal about it, I'd take burn out of the body into the equation too for what it's worth.

I know of girls that are involved in the following all at once: Minor Intercounty Camogie, Minor Intercounty LGFA, Junior Intercounty Camogie, Intermediate Intercounty LGFA. All of that while doing the Leaving Cert.

At what point is enough enough. Can't be berating organisations for that (other than Managers not taking a step back and consdering the girls' well-being).

Okay, thanks for clarifying. And I'll agree wholeheartedly with your final statement there anyway. The GAA have a lot to lose and little or nothing to gain from integration, while it's the exact opposite for the other two Associations.

that sounds good !! its well for yee ! 😃

I think the problem with girls/ladies is usually down to numbers in a lot of smaller clubs .... Games having to be rescheduled because one team has 3-4 away in Irish school/hols etc etc etc .....

And then you have 'blitzes' at the weekend where theres two panels of 25 playing u14/16 camogie , and/or 35-40 playing GF ... so that cuts out any games at the weekend...

And we have a 'fixtures secretary' that has his finger in so many pies that he cant get the fixtures sorted - late notice, No notice, no results put up etc etc .... 😣

That article loses any hope of credibility before you even get to the first paragraph of the article itself.

The subhead says women "are simply campaigning for an equal share of resources". But there aren't equal resources in the first place. Resources of the two women's associations are nowhere near the resources of the GAA.

It's further evidence to show how members of the women's associations are just hoping for handouts from resources of another association which they had no hand in bringing in in the first place, and while continuing to have absolutely no concrete proposals themselves of how to increase the resources of any of the three associations.

Was watching that earlier barely 100 at it would be lucky to have 50 paying into it would have more at a club league game.

In fairness there are only so many weekends in the summer. With mens and womens championships all having provincial, then groups and finally knockout rounds how can they avoid clashing?

You on about money again ??? 😣

Just because ORiordan writes a pretty bad article , just bemoaning lack of financial equality, doesnt make it 100% true.

That is not what the players are complaining about ......

What do they want that doesn't involve money?

Obviously, synchronization between football and camogie. But there is nothing the GAA can do about that as its the camogie association and LGFA that make the fixtures.

Access to gear, pitches, physios all costs money. Money those associations currently don't have. It doesn't seem crazy to me that the GAA want to integrate before spending the money as then they have control over where the money goes. Get a physio on staff that can cover all county teams for instance.

The statement demands that minimum standards are agreed for 2024.

But everyone agrees that there should be basic minimum requirements met - the question is how is this funded.