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Marty and the Car

  • 06-07-2023 10:32pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Has the ‘house wife’s’ choice for gaa commentating gone out of favour/a step too far by taking the car…?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,363 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Yes

    Ban him for life.



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Couldn't give a shíte tbh.

    Real silly season stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    It's ok. He apologised



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭con747


    Error of judgement and mental stress is a good way to not have accountability.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,569 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Error in Judgement for 5 Years, Returned this Week

    RTE sh!te show continues, the freebies, barter accounts are all being revealed



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Has he a bank account, i reckon the tax man will be having a good look at all his returns. Renault are getting their moneys worth in advertising in fairness to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭Slideways


    I’m just surprised a Renault lasted 5 years. Surely it must have been replaced at some stage 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    If only Tubridy was on air he could create a diversion for Marty, and talk about some sick relative of his



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Wonder was he declaring it (the car) under BIK in his annual tax return…..? If not he could be facing a hefty bill from the revenue especially if they add in all associated penalties over the last 5/6 years…….we may never see or hear him on tv again 😢😢



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭Expunge


    He had a BMW before that.

    Must have been a bit of a come down heading home to Quilty in a Renault.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Wonder did someone ‘sponsor’ the dental work he appears to have gotten done also……he has a serious set of pearly whites…..😀

    I’m sure it was a ‘high performance’ Ren-alt that he was given…hardly a bog standard Megan…?

    free ‘Ren-alt’ vs BMW…. Fairly obvious choice…..also he may have squeezed tyres, maintenance/ service costs and possibly even a ‘fuel card’ …those Dublin to Quilty round trips would be saucey on fuel ⛽️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    the Renault was merely resting in his driveway

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    What he also said is that he receives neither a car nor car allowance from RTE, even though he is basically sent all over Ireland commentating for RTE. It's just strange.

    And then Renault hand him a car with no requirement for advertising or to be a "brand ambassador", and of course he thinks nothing of it.

    And as mentioned by another poster above, I do wonder if he declared this in his tax returns for Benefit-In-Kind tax. He didn't mention it to RTE apparently, so not sure if he mentioned it to the tax office. Hope there aren't other "errors of judgement" at play here or if perhaps further "reflection" is needed here by Marty.

    The BIK issue also gets me thinking, what about other GAA stars who get paid for promotional work etc.

    Or even intercounty managers, many of whom it is widely believed are getting paid in some shape or form



  • Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭vinniem


    I don't feel he has done anything too wrong here, bit nieve. This was nothing to do with RTE, he provided a service and instead of cash he took use of a Renault... In fairness I'd have taken the money 😂😂







  • Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭Arthur Pants
    Overlord




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,576 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's funny that he explicitly stated 'i wasn't being paid for this gig, so renault gave me a car' as if being given a car is not the same as being paid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭Radio5


    It shows the RTE culture though, he thought it was fine to take it. Would Renault or any company have offered him a car if he wasn't a commentator and presenter with RTE on TV & radio?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,576 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    my wife has had some dealings with a minor celebrity and it's gas how companies will - unsolicited - send her stuff. they'd see her posting on instagram, say, think 'oh, her interests mean she might like our product' and then contact her asking how they can get their stuff to her. and this woman would not be a national name in the way morrissey is.



  • Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭vinniem


    Agreed, that's why imo he is nieve and made a bad choice here. I would not put him in the same basket as those other crooks in RTE who claim they don't even know their monthly salary.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭dohboy


    Nothing story. He walked into the line of fire by handing it back and the interim DG sold him out during the Oireachtas committee by mentioning it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,576 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    the DG knew that was eventually going to be front page news, and clearly didn't want more 'why are we hearing about this through the press?' questions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭dohboy


    He hosted a number of GAA-related events for Renault, with players etc, didn't take a fee and was offfered the use of a car by Renault instead. That's what his statement said at least. By all accounts the Renault Ireland head is a big GAA fella.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,765 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Loads of people not with RTE get a loan of a car if they are doing a job that requires it.

    Also celebrities get free sht all the time. I have seen it first hand.

    Taken in isolation from the wider RTE scandal this really is nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,631 ✭✭✭pgj2015




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    Seems the Dooley wasn't referring to Marty when he asked about the car. More miles to go on this story by the looks of things.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,576 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    a five year 'loan' is not a 'loan'; it's a gift worth tens of thousands.



  • Registered Users Posts: 835 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    He didn't have a car allowance though so it's not the issue they discussed yesterday. No car allowance and a company gave him a courtesy car. It's really no big deal. Most well-known intercounty players have the exact same arrangement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    It's a nothing story if he has paid BIK and kept Revenue informed of the situation. Otherwise it is a story as a public figure failing to pay his taxes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Was he ever in favour?

    He gets more intolerable every year. This car incident changes nothing.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,576 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    as mentioned in another thread, where i work you have to declare gifts greater than a value of €50, IIRC - it's not tax related, but simple corporate governance over concerns of the donor gaining influence over decision making. apparently morrissey did run this past the higher ups in RTE and they saw no issue - i wonder how they'd react where i work if i told them i'd been offered something worth ten figures by a customer.

    and yes, you could argue that it'd be different if he was a current affairs reporter rather than a sports reporter - but what company would allow a differentiation of staff like that, where some staff are allowed receive large gifts and others aren't?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Yeah, what's a 70,000 euro tax bill between friends?



  • Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    Where exactly is that figure coming out of ? Surely any liability is between him and Revenue ?

    This is really making mountains out of molehills .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    So he bartered his time and celeb status for a free car or cars. And gained financially, substantially.

    He and Tubs are in the same water, having part of their incomes derived from bartering and either they or companies avoiding tax.

    Doesn't wash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    I'd expect Revenue then to be investigating these players and managers etc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,931 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Serious allegation there against Tubridy.

    From all accounts that have come out so far, he wasn’t involved in any bartering of his services, and he has stated that all his taxes are up to date.

    Do you know different?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    sure after five years its not worth buttons

    this is all a smoke screen

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Read the words - "having part of their incomes derived from bartering and either they or companies avoiding tax"

    Marty has been bartering his reputation and time for a car or cars.

    Tubridy has had his fees topped up by barter arrangements between RTE and other companies.

    Both have benefited from this type of very questionable practice.

    Surely many individuals and companies sweating and looking into their arrangements as matter of urgency.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,576 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    not sure if i understand you? they didn't hand him a five year old car. on the face of it, they gave him a new car. which he's had for five years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Also how can we be sure that it was the same car for the duration of the 5 years, know Ren-alt they would not want Marty to be seen in anything less than a 2/3 year old car. Also would marty be able to tax and insure a car that the didn't actually own............think you need a vehicle reg cert to do the first taxing of a vehicle, so its likely Ren-alt were covering these items also.........?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,729 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Marty must have a company to write yx stuff off through. He's able (well able) to charge for doing MC at different events like Strictly and Movie nights around the country, plus he has his Marty's Party side gig.

    He's have an accountant I'm sure keeping that side straight unless he's a complete eegit, which, while not out of the question, is probably not the case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    like i said now it is worth hardly anything after him having it for five years, most gaa managers and players get a loan of a car and it is promotion that helps sell cars

    say the car was 25k new if they sold it then it likely cost renault 8k to buy at cost price so that is all the car cost, its not tens of thousands

    stupid story to cover up some other nonsense

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,576 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    This is not difficult - the value of the car *now* is not the same as the value of the gift to him.

    Otherwise you'd be able to claim the value of having been taken to a posh restaurant is zero a day afterwards because the food you ate now has no value.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 926 ✭✭✭Get Real


    Really don't get this one. He's not a publicly elected representative or something.

    Whatever private contracts he had with a private company is his business.

    Can a fireman not teach a private CPR course on his days off?

    Can a solicitor who avails of the legal aid scheme not also provide private advice?

    Can my sister who works in an office not work at a hairstylist on Saturdays?

    It's prime headline material and immediately creates a "RTÉ, free car, let's get angry!!!"

    It didn't cost the state anything. It wasn't on Rte grounds. It wasn't some gift of a car to a politician to influence car policies.

    Then when that's pointed out, people go down the tax route when it turns out the private contract isn't actually a scandal at all.

    He might be public in the sense that we know him on the telly. But he's a private individual who can make whatever contractual arrangements he wants. And has the same privacy as any example above. It's between him, his accountant and revenue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Is that you Marty…? Is it public transport for ya today to get to croke park….?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    He said he made an error of judgement on this.

    That means he has not paid the BIK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Not if his Private interests conflict with his job. RTE could have used Marty as an employee to promote RTE, not Marty promoting RTE. everyone knows Marty charges a hefty fee for 'appearance' money at functions. How much of that has been declared is a question that should be asked.

    A fireman cannot do private work if he/she is a public sector worker without the approval of their employer. I have seen this applied in a different sector in Education where people were attempting to run a 'private' enterprise in conflict with their day jobs. You have to declare, and get approval for outside employment. Not doing so leaves you open for sanction.

    Yes, your sister can work as a hairstylist as long as it doesn't conflict with her work as a public sector worker, and not using her profile to get wor5k to the detriment of their employer.

    Yes, it did cost the state. He has to pay BIK for the use of the car. That is a direct cost to the state, and the bigger question is has Marty been claiming mileage for a car he doesn't own or has to pay for? That is a direct cost to the state.

    Marty's arrogance is well-known within the GAA and RTE. If anyone looks under the carpet theirs plenty more to find.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Think you put ‘Get real’ back in his box there nicely…😀😀

    One observation though. Didn’t Marty say he charged no appearance fees for his Ren-alt ‘work’…….? Appears this is just a bit of a joke and in some way trying to lighten the severity of his ‘mistake’….?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    I don't know about Marty Ren Alt (the Clare pronunciation) but everyone knows that Marty has a cost for Dinner Dance appearances etc. I have no doubt that he declares all his income.. cash and cheques...

    Marty's statement "Many of the GAA-related engagements I do, I do at no cost" directly implies he has a cost for other GAA-related events, and as an employee of RTE, and he is one of the few employees at that level, he shouldn't be charging for any GAA related event as this is his role. Either RTE pays him to be there or there should be NO charge at all.

    BTW Dooley has said it wasn't Marty he has hinted at, and it's another case. Funny how Marty came out so quickly.. Who's getting cover from this?



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