Climate activists

They lost the crowd when they started bullying people…ie. damaging people’s property, blocking traffic with people trying to get to work, to healthcare appointments, dropping off / collecting their children and so on…

that isn’t activism, that’s bullying.

activist : a person who campaigns to bring about political or social change.

bully : a blustering, mean, or predatory person who, from a perceived position of relative power, intimidates, abuses, harasses, or coerces people, especially those considered unlikely to defend themselves..

Yer one crying was so cringy. 😂 Greta has a lot to answer for.

In my opinion the climate activists you see engaging in protests such as blocking traffic and invading sports events are slightly touched. I don't mean that as an insult I mean it as a medical diagnosis.

Who I would insult is the journalists and commentators that say these people are doing good work by bringing attention to the 'climate crisis'. They don't really do any such thing because all they do is bring attention to themselves as most sane people as they stare at their TV spend more time wondering what kind of people are they, why are they dressed that way, why are they taking in that strange way, why do they all look like same and act the same, rather than worry about melting ice caps.

Seeing those specific types of people on TV remind one of the types that wear billboards saying The End is Nigh, or some religious zealot with a megaphone on a street corner telling everyone to repent or go to hell, you know people who aren't quite all there, does nothing to get people on side rather encourages people to think that those people predicting climate catastrophe are a little bit dotty and it would be wise to ignore their hysterics, the complete oppose outcome of what they're trying to achieve.

No need to insult anybody.

The article is based on research across a group of academics and it's just part of the discussion.

I don't approve of attacking works of art and letting the air out of tyres but it's the people who do these things that are accountable not the journalists who report on them.

There is no equivalence between them though.

Suffragettes wanted greater control of their own lives, climate activists want control of everyone else's lives.

Climate terrorism? Could be a thing ? And why ? Because the crimes climate activists and enablers commit now are treated with kid gloves… so there is no positive or responsible deterrent.

next one interferes with traffic, arrest, convict and jail…

That's the stamp of a totalitarian state.

We need to have our boundaries pushed a bit, in many different spheres. Complacency is a dangerous default position.

Snowflakes. weak humans and the generation that does everything for likes and attention.

I'd love to know how all these folk get to these events to protest?

Do they live within walking distance of the event they plan to disrupt? If not, they probably including burning some sort of oil to actually get there, be it on a car, train, bus.....

Don't forget - Irish working class concerned mothers etc. dragging their children out into traffic on the busiest Dublin city streets to protest against foreign bogeymen = heroes.

The same people commending them talk about running over climate protesters and how they're a bunch of attention seekers.

So a climate activist not only targets a specific individual but did so on the targets wedding day. No rational person would think that to be a good idea.

The favourite orange colour.

Maybe she was just throwing some confetti.

Well JSO applaud it so what difference does it make really.

so they lost the crowd when they well, protested?

not really to be honest, it's just a small vocal minority of angry people spoiling for a fight because their lives are **** because of the con artist servatives wrecking britain who are whinging about things like "disruption" which is a part of any protest.

anti-brexiters get the same treatment as well and the far right are involved as well in pushing the fake outrage.

once upon a time nobody would hugely care about groups like JSO etc, they would just work around them and if groups engaged in criminal damage they would just be arrested and job done, none of this fo outrage and cries for violence to be met out to peaceful protesters.

Ah EoTR! I remember often reading your posts years ago and while I didn't agree with a lot of what you say it's good to see you see still knocking about. Hope you are well

Awwwhh ‘ angry men ‘ well the personal attack is really an argument winner there isn’t it 😉 great job 👏🏼

not looking for protesting to be a crime. You are being typically disingenuous. People can and do protest without breaking the law, without endangering other people, without harassing other people , without intimidating or even inconveniencing other people a great deal.

people do and will care if the level of deterrent is significant enough. But….they are not ‘always prosecuted’ as you claim.

problem is with these climate bullies is when they start endangering and harassing the public, the public if seeing that police and or politicians are being soft on them, they might and will just decide they won’t stand for it….. self defence is a thing… climate bullies taking the violent or intimidatory route may end up having to eat a slice of that pie themselves…. They in fact have had to, in other countries.

‘Legitimate’ protest ends when criminal acts occur…. Empathy for ‘protesters’ ends when they stop protesting legitimately and legally and responsibly.

I've seen climate activism and "Greenism" described as the new religion, it seems appropriate imho.

It gives meaning to peoples lives, if you oppose it you're basically called a heretic and best of all they now have science and stats to back them up!

BTW, expect someone to reply with "but what about china". That happens in every single climate change thread. Someone saying we should do nothing because of china.

Perhaps, each start with their own lives. It's a realistic place to start. That's if you accept their is a problem.

people in the uk don't protest without breaking the law as protesting is now effectively illegal without being specifically illegal, but may as well be with the amount of restrictions on it.

every protest inconveniences somebody, inconvenience is just that and individuals need to grow up and get over it.

one is not entitled to not be inconvenienced seeing as if they were, nothing else could ever be done around them.

intimidation and harrassing were already illegal and were prosecuted where it actually happened.

the level of deterrent for protesting or tiny level criminality will never be significant enough because britain already has the highest prison population in europe yet criminality i getting worse.

the only people who think politicians and police are being soft are the violent angry at everything types and the far right who have always been violent, are looking for any excuse to be violent, and have found an opportunity to, in their heads legitimately engage in violence by beating up peaceful protesters.

if it isn't climate protesters it will be anti-brexit protesters.

what this comes down to is, i don't agree with them so they are bullies/whatever when they are just peaceful protesters, some of who do engage in very low level criminality and have always been dealt with by the police when they do so.

this crap is all down to the tories culture war crap.

"cut down on stuff like farming" - Jesus wept. Yip, that there farming 'stuff', sure it only does bad 'stuff', nothing good comes from it at all!