Cost of a United Ireland and the GFA

An awful lot of words, multiple posts and you still can't give a straight answer. If you're so sure of it, it should be pretty easy.

If the Ulster Fry and Nordie Tayto (which I agree is vastly superior to Free Stayto) is the best youre coming up with, maybe it needs a bit of work.

Also, the repeated, 'you guys' as if I'm not included.....I'm from the North; once more I have to ask, are you asserting that only Ulster Protestant culture is Northern Irish? Not quite as inclusive and cross community as you suggest if a Fermanagh native isn't part of it.

If you move to England would you stop being Northern Irish, Downcow? I moved because I was fed up with the bullshit politics and because I didn't want my family growing up with our bullshit.

You keep being defensive and telling us that it is totally different, yet you still won't give a single concrete example. I suspect it's because you're avoiding acknowledging that what you consider, 'OWC's' culture is essentially just Ulster Protestant culture and you don't want to admit it.

Prove me wrong.

Not a single one of those things are unique to the North, Downcow. Half of them would be enough to diffentiate between fellas a county over. Another chunk are back into, 'Ulster Protestant' exclusives, and the rest are just effects of being legally distinct states. Square root of f*ck all culture in there. A few of them are even all island Irish like colcannon. You're sh*tting the bed on this one pal.

Haha. Hook line and sinker. I don’t think anyone in ni will have ever heard of colcannon. I googled differences and it can up. I had never heard of the word or the dish in my life. So very very funny that you singled it out as the one that was def all-island. You make my point brilliantly for me.

enjoy you colcannon and I’ll stick to my ‘half & half’

I've been eating colcannon and champ both in Fermanagh since the day I was born, Downcow. You're proving the point rather than dismissing it. You've probably never had boxty either.

And still you can't quantify the unique, unifying, 'OWC' culture we supposedly share.

Since when is an accent a cultural difference?

Or what you put on your chips.

Regional differences in diet exist here as well and the Cork accent is different to a northern accent like the Monaghan one, we are like Fermanagh people eating their boxty all culturally Irish.

You've literally just tried to point out a North/South difference that I've made clear isn't one, you're making post after post and you still haven't been able to define a single damn thing that is unique about the culture of, 'OWC'. You've even tried to claim the fecking NHS as something uniquely Northern Irish, or your bloody accent.

Drop the bullsh*t. Give me a single thing that would be considered a point of cultural note anywhere else in the world.

This is important to me; what cultural points are you worried about losing should Unification occur?!

Sometimes I don’t know why I bother and this is getting tiresome. You are trying to argue that there are no cultural, identity, experiential differences between the north and south or that are common accross ni. It’s nonsense.

here’s what Wikipedia says about culture. When you limit it to dance and language, just because you like dance and language, it’s a nonsense. But that aside. Let you guys answer a question for a change.

could you tell me how eg a young man who lives in tallagt, loves football, supports Man Utd and Celtic, enjoys raves, etc is culturally Irish??

theres cultural difference within the north itself between those who wish to walk over others. we see it today all over the north with the flegs on the bombfires. do the orange order own pallet factories?

I don't know why you bother myself; I would've thought it would have been much easier to give a few examples of the culture you stated was so great instead of hours of dodging the question and whataboutery.

Francie just answer the question. There are a few of you claiming nonsense in the last few posts and putting down every example I give of things common to most northerners that are not common to southerners. (We even have someone on who claims to live in the north and has never heard of a gravy half & half).

tell me what it is that makes the young lad I mentioned, culturally Irish?

I did answer.

All the other stuff about him you fail to mention when you cherrypick things about him to suit your slant.

He has a similar heritage in literature, drama, music, history, language etc to you downcow.

Is a person in Yorkshire who doesn't know what a Cornish Pastie is culturally NOT British? No, you would never be stupid enough to claim that.

Your argument is so transparent when you limit the considerations...anyone could do that.

Francie you never answer questions. Just ask and then complain about the answers.

let me turn your silly question back at you to help you grasp what you are doing. Please answer it!

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If Ireland rejoined the Uk tomorrow what is it you would miss/not be able to do culturally?

I.E. What would disappear culturally for you?

Can you answer that question?

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So I think you are telling us that the young lad in Liverpool, Belfast, Dublin and Cardiff are all equally culturally Irish? There different experiences mean nothing culturally and identity-wise? Or maybe you can define how they are culturally different?

Yes, I can.

If we rejoined I think the British have advanced a fair bit since they controlled Ireland. We would not have an attempt to wipe out the use of our native language, we would be allowed enough personal freedoms to express ourselves, our cultural pursuits would be supported and funded.

We would be able to indulge our cultural pursuits in music, sports, literature, poetry, drama, dance etc as the British now have a huge appreciation of elements of our culture downcow. That's your culture too.

We are now a strong, vibrant and confident enough culture that nothing would disappear.